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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 20:38
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Someone suggested earlier that Flybe are going to be doing charters for Summer 2018.....any idea where and for whom ?

Also any new routes planned in the 2nd phase of Summer 2018 routes ?

Finally when are QR releasing their flights ?

Sorry for the bombardment of questions
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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 22:43
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I don't think ANYONE knows the answer to your last question if so I am 100% sure it would have been posted by now.
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Madrid

Anyone know if the madrid flights are back for next year? Don't appear to be in the booking engine yet.
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Old 6th Sep 2017, 10:25
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Originally Posted by bycrewlgw
Anyone know if the madrid flights are back for next year? Don't appear to be in the booking engine yet.
Still plenty of time for it to be announced. Hopefully they'll release them soon enough. The LF for July was about 60% with 107 average pax per flight. So not too bad for a new route. I'd be surprised if it didn't get renewed with a full season for next year and hopefully go 3 weekly as well which may well encourage more passengers to use the service.
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Old 6th Sep 2017, 16:24
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CWL - LCY

What a shame that this route has been unsustainable.
Used it last week for a family weekend in London. Brilliant- 35 mins in the air and such easy onward travel from LCY. Personally I would never use the train again but alas the take up, especially amongst business bods hasnt materialised. As a Welshman the Welsh Gov should support this rather than CWL- VLY.
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Old 6th Sep 2017, 18:16
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Its a shame a CWL lost the LCY route but at least the Q400 is staying and they've expanded on other routes and the gaps in their schedule for Summer 18 means there could be more to come.
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If CWL is keeping the Dash 8 surely they should be announcing what if any new destinations the are going to serve to ensure enough publicity and use for Summer 2018.

Only Phase 1 had been announced and no new destination had been added yet.

Personally I would love to see a French regional route like BOD, LRH or EGC.

Suppose time will tell.
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Old 6th Sep 2017, 20:11
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Depends if they had to wait for a tour operator to confirm a take up of some of the seats or if it's a big airport then slots and handling if they've never flown there say Nice as an example or Split.
With the Dash based i wouldn't rule out say Rennes. BRS has no flights to that area of France and they operate a weekly flight from EXT and there is the Celtic connection between Brittany and Wales so could be a possibility.
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Yeah good comment there, I'm expecting a French regional to be one of the routes (if any) as that market is quite under served compared to other airports in the U.K. And the Dash 8 ideal.

I thought the E195's were picking up some charter work for Summer 2018 ?
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I had heard the same about the E195s and there are gaps in their schedule for S18 especially on Saturdays so I guess it's just a case of wait and see what happens but I wouldn't be surprised if it was cruise related.
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QR flights from CWL to DOH and beyond are on sale now!

Daily B787 (2 class config) Dreamliner service starting Tuesday, 1 May 2018

https://www.cardiff-airport.com/news...-to-the-world/
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Daily B787 to DOH with QR from 1st May 2018.
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QR at CWL

That's very good news for CWL. Hopefully the research has been done and both QR and CWL are confident they'll be able to make this route a success.
In numbers, it will mean 22 Business Class seats and 232 Economy seats to fill, totalling 254 seats a day, and nearly 1,800 a week. Obviously they won't need to fill it to break even and with underbelly cargo, that'll offset any costs too.
Remember, airports make their money from passenger footfall, as well as car parking and other ancillary revinues. At 100% load factor QR is only going to bring 92,710 extra passengers through CWL a year, so let's hope it's the money spent on getting QR in, plus anything to be spent on upgrades and marketing will make up for that.
92,710 seats is the equivalent to another 2-3 Flybe flights per day so although a fantastic airline to have operating out of CWL, I hope it's all beneficial to CWL and Wales as a whole - especially given the talk that the WG may have had a hand in getting QR in.
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I imagine there will also be a considerable amount of cargo on the QR flight too given the size of the Dreamliner.

They best get those airbridges revamped and ready for the 1st May too.....
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
I imagine there will also be a considerable amount of cargo on the QR flight too given the size of the Dreamliner.

They best get those airbridges revamped and ready for the 1st May too.....
The cargo facility also needs expanding as well.
Only really need a new bridge on stand 7 really as that's the only stand with an airbridge that can take widebodies. Replacing 9 and 10 would be pointless as they wouldn't get that much regular use to warrant the cost.
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True the end airbridge needs a bit of TLC and revamp for the QR flights.....I very much doubt they will fee stand it using steps for such a prestige route as this.
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That's very good news for CWL
Lets hope it doesn't dilute the BHX loads.
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
True the end airbridge needs a bit of TLC and revamp for the QR flights.....I very much doubt they will fee stand it using steps for such a prestige route as this.
As far as I know apart from during the Champions League final or when the French rugby 777s have been at the airport all of the widebodied routes CWL has uses the bridge on stand 7 but it can only to the first door of a A330 and 767 and 787. I'd have thought that Qatar would want it to go to the 2nd door so people from economy aren't going through business class so hopefully that means a fully adjustable airbridge will be installed then which can also mean Thomson and Flybe can use it as well.
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.... cant imagine the CWL spotters will care much about that.
Odd its not a consistent daily departure time.
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount
.... cant imagine the CWL spotters will care much about that.
Odd its not a consistent daily departure time.
It's the same for EDI BHX and MAN the times alternate between morning and afternoon departures.
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