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Old 31st Aug 2020, 11:34
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Originally Posted by runway30 View Post
Now go back and look at which Regional Airports would have the financial muscle to do this, CWL would be on that list. Now go back and list the Regional Airports whose shareholders have had the desire to do this for a long time and are prepared to throw a lot of money at it, CWL would be on that list.
If the WG were going to get the cheque book out it would be for a scheduled long haul route which no doubt would look good attracting one just before an election!
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 12:53
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Depends if EI/BA want to create whichever Airport as a mini long haul hub. CWL-New York might work, but that's about it, which is only 1 aircraft.

Is there enough demand in the region? I doubt it. Theres no connecting traffic through CWL. Especially with Airlines saying travel won't return to 2019 levels for a few years yet.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 13:41
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Originally Posted by caaardiff View Post
Depends if EI/BA want to create whichever Airport as a mini long haul hub. CWL-New York might work, but that's about it, which is only 1 aircraft.

Is there enough demand in the region? I doubt it. Theres no connecting traffic through CWL. Especially with Airlines saying travel won't return to 2019 levels for a few years yet.
I dont think there is any wish to create anything. EI have two aircraft surplus and they want to be paid to place them somewhere. A match made in heaven for WG I would have thought.
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Old 3rd Sep 2020, 21:59
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With all the planned Eastern expansion notably at MME, SOU and other airports how come Eastern only appear to be advertising for cabin crew at CWL on their webpage ?

i know they do the twice daily CWL-VLY route with the based J41 and prior to COVID-19 they did the daily MME/ABZ but this was with a non based aircraft.

Would this cabin crew recruitment drive be purely for the VLY route or is something else in the planning for CWL as since the loss of Flybe, CWL has lost (and not replaced to date) BHD, DUB, EDI, GLA, JER and CDG.......all of which were the busiest schedule routes for CWL or is this just wishful thinking ? Just seems odd to be advertising solely for CWL based crew.

These destinations could fit in nicely with a based ATR I guess.
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Old 3rd Sep 2020, 23:47
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl View Post
With all the planned Eastern expansion notably at MME, SOU and other airports how come Eastern only appear to be advertising for cabin crew at CWL on their webpage ?

i know they do the twice daily CWL-VLY route with the based J41 and prior to COVID-19 they did the daily MME/ABZ but this was with a non based aircraft.

Would this cabin crew recruitment drive be purely for the VLY route or is something else in the planning for CWL as since the loss of Flybe, CWL has lost (and not replaced to date) BHD, DUB, EDI, GLA, JER and CDG.......all of which were the busiest schedule routes for CWL or is this just wishful thinking ? Just seems odd to be advertising solely for CWL based crew.

These destinations could fit in nicely with a based ATR I guess.
It's an unknown, obviously we hope for something more but personally I can't see any of lost Flybe destinations returning until at least S21. At the moment we must assume that it's for the Anglesey route.
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Old 4th Sep 2020, 05:40
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl View Post
With all the planned Eastern expansion notably at MME, SOU and other airports how come Eastern only appear to be advertising for cabin crew at CWL on their webpage ?

i know they do the twice daily CWL-VLY route with the based J41 and prior to COVID-19 they also did the daily MME/ABZ but this was with a non based aircraft.

Would this cabin crew recruitment drive be purely for the VLY route or is something else in the planning for CWL as since the loss of Flybe, CWL has lost (and not replaced to date) BHD, DUB, EDI, GLA, JER and CDG.......or is this just wishful thinking ? Just seems odd to be advertising solely for CWL based crew.
Airlines recruit from all different places for crew. The 2 airlines that spring to mind that had a advert for cabin crew around CWL was BA and Virgin,but neither fly any passenger services from CWL.I remember at the time there was a big discussion at the time and the same question was asked as you asked. Airlines recruit from all walks of life as it adresses the racist thing.Normaly the crew that apply for jobs get employed near to a base,as not many apply that live no where near a base,also it tells the airline what sort of people are out there in the big wide world. This practice has been going on like this for years. The sad part is this corona 19 has made airlines think and have and will do make redundancies.
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Old 5th Sep 2020, 14:33
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Yeah but the Eastern Airways website states CWL based cabin crew hence the question......seems a big push if it was simply for the VLY route.
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Old 5th Sep 2020, 15:10
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl View Post
Yeah but the Eastern Airways website states CWL based cabin crew hence the question......seems a big push if it was simply for the VLY route.
What I will add to this is that the information regarding recruitment being "open" for Cardiff has been on there for quite some time, even pre-pandemic days.

I can only imagine there was a drive to recruit at CWL for the VLY and MME routes (maybe using the CWL to route through MME and crew from there as well)... but I guess none of us know what's going on behind closed doors. And may never know.
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 11:25
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Eastern Airways have put Anglesey onsale for Summer 2021. Same times from Cardiff as before 0735 and 1610 (15.10 on Fridays). Doesn't look like Teesside/Aberdeen is coming back.
The route is due to restart again on 19th October. Finger's crossed for that!
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Old 9th Sep 2020, 18:27
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Bit of good news for CWL in that there will be an IOM Charter next summer.
Bad news is that unless CWL gets a based airline for next year to operate them it looks like there'll be no flights to Scotland as Loganair are adamant on social media that they will not be resuming Cardiff to Edinburgh or Glasgow for Summer 2021.
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Old 9th Sep 2020, 19:02
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 View Post
Bit of good news for CWL in that there will be an IOM Charter next summer.
https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status...063856641?s=19
Bad news is that unless CWL gets a based airline for next year to operate them it looks like there'll be no flights to Scotland as Loganair are adamant on social media that they will not be resuming Cardiff to Edinburgh or Glasgow for Summer 2021.
I still think there is something in the pipeline with Eastern ......just got a feeling they may take up the BE routes to BHD, DUB, EDI & possibly CDG. They will have the rule of the roost with no competition from Blue Islands or now Loganair.
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Old 9th Sep 2020, 19:09
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl View Post
I still think there is something in the pipeline with Eastern ......just got a feeling they may take up the BE routes to BHD, DUB, EDI & possibly CDG. They will have the rule of the roost with no competition from Blue Islands or now Loganair.
Thats probably CWLs only option to regain the Scottish routes. Ireland i suppose there's still a chance of Aer lingus and Paris probably a slim chance of Air France.
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Old 9th Sep 2020, 19:16
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Yeah I tend to agree and prior to COVID-19 would have expected some form of deal to be arranged with CWL. BHD & EDI (possibly GLA) would be a good start along with VLY of course. Be great to have Aer Lingus Regional doing DUB again and as you said AF to CDG, should fit in nicely for HOP too.

COVID-19 has certainly thrown a spanner in the works with things.....cant understand why Loganair have dropped EDI & GLA yet seem to be adding frequency from other regional airports. If they had x2 daily flights it would have been a good earner for them as EDI especially was one of the top destinations ex CWL.

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Old 9th Sep 2020, 21:02
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl View Post
Yeah I tend to agree and prior to COVID-19 would have expected some form of deal to be arranged with CWL. BHD & EDI (possibly GLA) would be a good start along with VLY of course. Be great to have Aer Lingus Regional doing DUB again and as you said AF to CDG, should fit in nicely for HOP too.

COVID-19 has certainly thrown a spanner in the works with things.....cant understand why Loganair have dropped EDI & GLA yet seem to be adding frequency from other regional airports. If they had x2 daily flights it would have been a good earner for them as EDI especially was one of the top destinations ex CWL.

Bring back Air Wales !!
The CEO in an interview said Cardiff wasn't viable and there was no demand. Which maybe understandable for summer 2020 during Covid19 but in the future as demand recovers? Maybe there's more to the situation than we'll ever know?
Hopefully CWL will regain the routes in good time.
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Old 10th Sep 2020, 01:45
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 View Post
The CEO in an interview said Cardiff wasn't viable and there was no demand. Which maybe understandable for summer 2020 during Covid19 but in the future as demand recovers? Maybe there's more to the situation than we'll ever know?
Hopefully CWL will regain the routes in good time.
I highly doubt there's little demand in normal times. I don't know why they didn't use a Saab 340 if the ERJ was to big. I think the failure was some crazy prices and a pathetic schedule. Unless as you mentioned, there's more to it.
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Old 11th Sep 2020, 09:27
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I highly doubt there's little demand in normal times. I don't know why they didn't use a Saab 340 if the ERJ was to big. I think the failure was some crazy prices and a pathetic schedule. Unless as you mentioned, there's more to it.
cant understand why Loganair said there was no demand, Flybe and BMI baby operated 3 flights a day on larger aircraft than the EM4. The demand was simply not there due to the silly excuse of flight timings they offered and just one flight a day in the evening. If Loganair were serious then they had the capacity and aircraft to do at least 2 a day. Just a publicity stunt to show them taking over BE routes to save the day more like.
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Old 11th Sep 2020, 10:00
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl View Post
cant understand why Loganair said there was no demand, Flybe and BMI baby operated 3 flights a day on larger aircraft than the EM4. The demand was simply not there due to the silly excuse of flight timings they offered and just one flight a day in the evening. If Loganair were serious then they had the capacity and aircraft to do at least 2 a day. Just a publicity stunt to show them taking over BE routes to save the day more like.
Elsewhere it was mentioned that CWL-EDI wasn't the most profitable of routes under Flybe. Whether that changed or not when it went Q400 I don't know.
It's a shame now that Edinburgh especially seems to be lost as a route but hopefully Dublin and Paris aren't.
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Old 11th Sep 2020, 10:13
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Elsewhere it was mentioned that CWL-EDI wasn't the most profitable of routes under Flybe. Whether that changed or not when it went Q400 I don't know.
It's a shame now that Edinburgh especially seems to be lost as a route but hopefully Dublin and Paris aren't.
I do agree with you regarding the DUB & CDG routes though......lets hope these are picked up pretty soon once this COVID-19 pandemic calms down a notch.

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Old 11th Sep 2020, 17:45
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Old 11th Sep 2020, 18:09
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl View Post
I do agree with you regarding the DUB & CDG routes though......lets hope these are picked up pretty soon once this COVID-19 pandemic calms down a notch.
But CWL does have a CDG connection, last time I travelled on the blue Fokker, these days an Embraer, it was on an AF flight no. CWL/CDG via AMS:

Departing: Cardiff International Airport (CWL), Cardiff, United Kingdom
16:50 Sat
Arriving: Amsterdam Schiphol Airport, (AMS), Amsterdam, Netherlands
19:05 Sat
Air France (AF 8348) Aircraft type - F70
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