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Old 19th Nov 2019, 12:29
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Eastern Airways have added a Sunday flight to Aberdeen and Newcastle.
https://www.cardiff-airport.com/news...-and-aberdeen/
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Old 19th Nov 2019, 13:49
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Would be nice to see a link to STN, from Anglesey, with all the possibilities on self connection at STN it would be an amazing addition to Valley Airport.
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Old 19th Nov 2019, 17:25
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Originally Posted by daz211 View Post
Would be nice to see a link to STN, from Anglesey, with all the possibilities on self connection at STN it would be an amazing addition to Valley Airport.
Looking forward to reading the business case...
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Old 19th Nov 2019, 17:39
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Looking forward to reading the business case...
I remember when Carwyn Jones was FM he mentioned Heathrow when the third runway opened but I'm pretty sure it'll never happen.
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Old 19th Nov 2019, 19:29
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Originally Posted by daz211 View Post
Would be nice to see a link to STN, from Anglesey, with all the possibilities on self connection at STN it would be an amazing addition to Valley Airport.
Not many people want to self connect. STN only really offers loco and charter self connections. Self connecting as you put it is very risky if anything goes wrong on the way. LGW or LHR would offer a much better range of connection options and with underlining or through connection is a lot safer. That being said, MAN is easily accessible by train and road from North Wales.
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Old 19th Nov 2019, 20:05
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Originally Posted by caaardiff View Post
Not many people want to self connect. STN only really offers loco and charter self connections. Self connecting as you put it is very risky if anything goes wrong on the way. LGW or LHR would offer a much better range of connection options and with underlining or through connection is a lot safer. That being said, MAN is easily accessible by train and road from North Wales.
I値l think you値l find 100痴 self connect through STN everyday and believe it or not, getting to MAN from Anglesey is not that easy by train, maybe if there was direct services it might be different.
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Old 19th Nov 2019, 21:55
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Originally Posted by daz211 View Post

I値l think you値l find 100痴 self connect through STN everyday and believe it or not, getting to MAN from Anglesey is not that easy by train, maybe if there was direct services it might be different.
Not from Anglesey, but there is an hourly train from Llandudno which is part of the catchment area that VLY would serve.

STN is a huge Airport with 100's of flights a day from many different markets. Bearing in mind the opening time of VLY, would a twice daily flight really be timed sufficiently for anyone to self connect and would the North West of Wales really support such flights?
The market that STN serves is mainly low cost Airlines or charter. Unless the VLY-STN is subsidised, which it will highly unlikely be allowed to be, then the cost of operating that flight would result in high flight costs.
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Old 22nd Nov 2019, 09:01
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CAA Stats for October 2019
137,203 passengers used the airport in October down 2.1% on 2018. The rolling year was 1,667,098 passengers up 6.4% on 2018.
Atm's were 1365 -11.8%.
Top 10 routes
1. Amsterdam 14,258
2. Palma de Mallorca 11,532
3. Alicante 10,813
4. Edinburgh 10,427
5. Malaga 9356
6. Dublin 8128
7. Doha 7387
8. Tenerife 6353
9. Paris CDG 6246
10. Faro 5513
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Old 22nd Nov 2019, 17:32
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Not bad figures for the month and year considering. Guess we will have to wait until this time next year to see the real hit from TCXs demise. Hope the airport can pull a few more routes out of the bag before then.

whats going on with TUI? Holidays announced for winter 20/21 and summer 21 but seems well down with routes cut if that is the final version? Hoping they値l announce more just seems strange.
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Old 22nd Nov 2019, 19:20
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Originally Posted by bycrewlgw View Post
Not bad figures for the month and year considering. Guess we will have to wait until this time next year to see the real hit from TCXs demise. Hope the airport can pull a few more routes out of the bag before then.

whats going on with TUI? Holidays announced for winter 20/21 and summer 21 but seems well down with routes cut if that is the final version? Hoping they値l announce more just seems strange.
I'd be surprised if any new routes came now, maybe some airlines will add frequencies on current routes fingers crossed.

As for TUI winter is roughly the same as 2019/20, they never seem to really offer much beyond a basic schedule during winter with 1 based aircraft.
Summer 2021 is only the first release so I'd expect some more at a later date.
I think CWL will now start looking towards 2021 and trying to get a 4th based aircraft from TUI and more from the other airlines that serve it.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 09:35
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NEW ROUTE
TUI have put Sharm el Sheikh onsale for winter 2020/21 from Cardiff_Airport 1 weekly on Mondays.

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Old 28th Nov 2019, 13:16
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I assume the SSH will replace the HRG ? Or are we having both of them ?
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 13:34
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I assume the SSH will replace the HRG ? Or are we having both of them ?
HRG doesn't operate in the winter only summer but isn't onsale for summer 2021 and to be honest I'd be surprised if Sharm el Sheikh for the winter actually happens!
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 19:17
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Wales Euro 2020 draw
v Switzerland in Baku 13/6/20
v Turkey in Baku 17/6/20
v Italy in Rome 21/6/20
Cardiff airport should hopefully see a decent amount of charters for those games especially Rome and hopefully we'll see some 737 flights from KLM fingers crossed!
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Old 10th Dec 2019, 19:02
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I noticed a few interesting numbers in the article linked below about the Qatar Airways route at CWL. I've highlighted what i feel are key points.
From May to October 2019 the route saw 50,000 passengers use it which was an increase of 6,000 up 13.5% on 2018.
The split of passengers is 52% originating from the UK and 48% are visitors, also 18% of the UK passengers are from England, for the airport as a whole 4% of it's passengers are from England.
11% of the passengers use the route for Business and 89% for leisure.
The most popular final destinations from Cardiff are Doha 11%, Bangkok 10%, Perth and Sydney 6%, Bali 4% and Kuwait, Lahore, Kuala Lumpur and Amristar all at 3% and Auckland 2%.
Inbound the route is attracting more numbers especially from Qatar and also Oman and Kuwait.
It was noted that the route isn't maximising it's freight potential especially outbound and that the popularity of Thailand could be exploited more especially in the winter and that there was a good opportunity for Wales fans travelling to New Zealand in the summer to use the route.
With the route 18 months old the figures are encouraging that the route is maturing well compared to Birmingham and is on track for it's 4 year maturity level. The question then will be whether Qatar deploy bigger aircraft or add frequency if the route gets to the maturity level needed.
https://www.business-live.co.uk/econ...r9YjQMqS4Hw_2A
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