Cardiff-2

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by bycrewlgw

going to be a case of wait and see. Only those involved will know where they want to take the business. Bottom line is how profitable the routes are and whether they fit in with the new business strategy. They must have some sort of plan though. They could easily have set up their own from Manchester and few routes from lhr if they had only wanted a regional connecting airline so regional flying may link in with their strategy especially with KL/AF too.

Yep i do hope it'll be positive for CWL or at least the worst that happens is the E-jets get swapped for Q400s and it will depend on what sort of agreement the airport and airline could come too.

[Welshtraveller]

Why was today’s TUI’s flight to Tenerife and yesterday’s flight to Lanzarote delayed?

Thanks.

[sixchannel]

Originally Posted by Welshtraveller

Why was today’s TUI’s flight to Tenerife and yesterday’s flight to Lanzarote delayed?

Thanks.

Same aircraft - G-TAWN.

[Welshtraveller]

Originally Posted by sixchannel

Same aircraft - G-TAWN.

Do you know the reason(s) for the delays?

[sixchannel]

Originally Posted by Welshtraveller

Do you know the reason(s) for the delays?

G-TAWN flew on the 15th but not on the 16th so MAY have acquired a Tech that took some time to fix. Equally of course, a Winter schedule doesnt require flights every day. Whatever the case, it was on a Loser from the get-go on the 17th being 2 hours late off the blocks and didnt revover its Timings until today.

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by sixchannel

G-TAWN flew on the 15th but not on the 16th so MAY have acquired a Tech that took some time to fix. Equally of course, a Winter schedule doesnt require flights every day. Whatever the case, it was on a Loser from the get-go on the 17th being 2 hours late off the blocks and didnt revover its Timings until today.

There are no TUI flights on Wednesdays between December and March at Cardiff in the winter.

[PDXCWL45]

CAA stats for December 2018
December saw 85,663 passengers use the airport up 7% on 2017.
1,579,286 passengers used the airport in 2018 up 7.9% on 2017.
Top 10 routes
1. Amsterdam 12,461
2. Dublin 7318
3. Tenerife South 6995
4. Edinburgh 6914
5. Doha 6449
6. Alicante 6436
7. Belfast City 5926
8. Paris CDG 4787
9. Malaga 3666
10. Glasgow 3544

[PDXCWL45]

Qatar Airways carried 55,568 passengers through the airport in 2018 averaging 132 passengers per flight and a 52.3% load factor.

[CabinCrewe]

Still not lighting any torches then. How do these months compare to the original other regional QR DOH launch to EDI in their first months. Think they only now just routinely reach low 70's on average.

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by CabinCrewe

Still not lighting any torches then. How do these months compare to the original other regional QR DOH launch to EDI in their first months. Think they only now just routinely reach low 70's on average.

I honestly don't have a clue and comparing Cardiff to Edinburgh is a waste of time. The route is generally doing ok and no doubt will mature over time.

[MerchantVenturer]

Ryanair Malaga

Ryanair booking engine showing Malaga 3 x weekly (M, W, F) June-September. AGP-CWL 1740-1920: CWL-AGP 1945-2325.

[Welshtraveller]

Originally Posted by MerchantVenturer

Ryanair booking engine showing Malaga 3 x weekly (M, W, F) June-September. AGP-CWL 1740-1920: CWL-AGP 1945-2325.

Information is available on the link below:-

https://ukaviation.news/ryanair-to-l...t-this-summer/

[PDXCWL45]

Good growth from Ryanair from 3 weekly flights to 10 weekly flights!

[Wycombe]

You would have thought that CWL would want to protect the Vueling operation (they have been very good for the airport), but Ryanair do tend to generate their own market.

Hope it works for all concerned.

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by Wycombe

You would have thought that CWL would want to protect the Vueling operation (they have been very good for the airport), but Ryanair do tend to generate their own market.

Hope it works for all concerned.

Vueling are strong on Malaga and especially summer peak when the flights are full. But they can only offer so much as an airline and haven't expanded the route offering at CWL.
Ryanair offer more as an airline for the airport. They are a lot more well known and will bring in new passengers for the airport and offer the chance of notonly a base in the future but a a route network that encompasses more than just Spain.

[bycrewlgw]

Originally Posted by PDXCWL45

Vueling are strong on Malaga and especially summer peak when the flights are full. But they can only offer so much as an airline and haven't expanded the route offering at CWL.
Ryanair offer more as an airline for the airport. They are a lot more well known and will bring in new passengers for the airport and offer the chance of notonly a base in the future but a a route network that encompasses more than just Spain.

while it’s great that FR are expanding, the airport should be careful not to put all their eggs in one basket. FR left last time over a disagreement, they can do so again. There are plenty of other destinations that FR could serve from overseas bases such as LPA, ACE, FUE to name a few.

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by bycrewlgw

while it’s great that FR are expanding, the airport should be carefully not to put all their eggs in one basket. FR left last time over a disagreement, they can do so again. There are plenty of other destinations that FR could serve from overseas bases such as LPA, ACE, FUE to name a few.

It is a catch 22 situation for the airport. It needs to grow and Ryanair do seem willing to do that and add new routes and seem to be slowly testing the South Wales market. I wouldn't be surprised if theycontinue to add more. Lanzarote would be a good one but i think may depend on whether they keep their canary island bases. Hopefully they'll look at extending more routes into the winter to test year round demand.

[PDXCWL45]

I also think that the relationship between the airport and Ryanair is a lot better and i don't think they'll be raising the prices like they did before!

[bycrewlgw]

Originally Posted by PDXCWL45

I also think that the relationship between the airport and Ryanair is a lot better and i don't think they'll be raising the prices like they did before!

wasnt the reason why they increased the prices last time is that FR didn’t deliver on its 2 flights a day to Dublin though or was it a base? Can’t remember now :-)

[cymru]

Vueling

Great news FR have added another route and the number of Welsh passengers flying to Malaga from Bristol still should easily be able to fill these once they are aware of the option of the CWL flight. But have Vueling reduced capacity to Barcelona and Malaga compared to last summer or has it remained the same?