Cardiff-2

[Letsflycwl]

Originally Posted by PDXCWL45

Idk the airline but apparently it'll be an A320 going via Dubai.

Never heard of LDK ? Or IDK ? Who are they ?

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by Letsflycwl

Never heard of LDK ? Or IDK ? Who are they ?

Sorry Idk is text speak for i don't know

[Letsflycwl]

Originally Posted by PDXCWL45

Sorry Idk is text speak for i don't know

Ha no worries, I guess we will see what ever airline it is soon as I’d imagine it would need to position in pretty soon to operate that long route.......

Just seen it’s operating under White Airways, A319 OPO-CWL-DXB-BKK

[PDXCWL45]

CAA Stats September 2018
178,482 passengers used the airport in September up 7.2%. The rolling year was 1,560,493 up 7.9% on 2017. Atms were 1699 up 2.3%.
Top 10 routes September 2018
1. Palma de Mallorca 17,578
2. Amsterdam 12,093
3. Alicante 10,538
4. Malaga 10,197
6. Dublin 8954
7. Faro 8935
8. Doha 8897
9. Edinburgh 8334
10. Tenerife South 7477
CAA Stats September 2018
Domestic
Aberdeen 720 -11%
Anglesey 1163 -5%
Belfast City TBA
Durham Tees Valley 71
Edinburgh 8334
Glasgow 2118 -11%
Guernsey 72 -87%
Jersey 2100 +12%
Manchester 151
Newcastle 1163 -13%
European and International
Larnaca 3403 +21%
Paphos 1439 -2%
Aarhus 111
Paris CDG 7296 +35%
Berlin TXL 1233 -29%
Dusseldorf 531 +9%
Munich 1209 -44%
Corfu 1594 -14%
Heraklion 1473 -2%
Keffalinia 1105 -12%
Kos 1680 -1%
Rhodes 2798
Zakinthos 4298 +10%
Cork 1275 +20%
Dublin 8954 +22%
Milan MXP 2247 -22%
Parma 82
Rome FCO 1714 -8%
Venice 1143 +999%
Verona 1425 -15%
Amsterdam 12,093 +2%
Faro 8935 +8%
Alicante 10,538
Barcelona 3545 -13%
Ibiza 6189 +3%
Madrid 1049 -46%
Mahon 2640 -44%
Malaga 10,197 +5%
Palma de Mallorca 17,578 -11%
Reus 3049 +5%
Arrecife 4487 +5%
Las Palmas 1855 -2%
Tenerife South 7477 -2%
Antalya 2790
Dalaman 7076 +68%
Burgas 4216 +11%
Wroclaw 54
Doha 8897

[sixchannel]

Numbers

I love numbers.
MAN - 151
MME - 71
They have to be some kind of one-offs, dont they, or were/are they failed routes?
Just asking.

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by sixchannel

I love numbers.
MAN - 151
MME - 71
They have to be some kind of one-offs, dont they, or were/are they failed routes?
Just asking.

Charters. CWL sees a fair bit of sport team charters not too mention the odd diversion so odd ones like that will pop up in the stats.

[sixchannel]

Originally Posted by PDXCWL45

Charters. CWL sees a fair bit of sport team charters not too mention the odd diversion so odd ones like that will pop up in the stats.

Many thanks. I get it. So theyre werent necessarily all scheduled services.
That probably also explains the low Parma number.

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by sixchannel

Many thanks. I get it. So theyre werent necessarily all scheduled services.
That probably also explains the low Parma number.

Parma was Cardiff Blues going to play Zebre in the Pro14.

[HH6702]

TUI summer 2020 goes on sale this Thursday so expect if Jet2 is to base expect some news soon about it

[PDXCWL45]

TUI Winter 2019
Tenerife will be 3 weekly with 1 away based flight
Malaga 1 weekly but 2 weekly in April with an away based flight.
Gran Canaria will be 1 weekly
Alicante will be 2 weekly
Hurghada will be 1 weekly
Paphos will be 1 weekly except January and February
Lanzarote will be 2 weekly
So 11 weekly flights in November, December and March, 10 weekly in January and February and 12 weekly in April.
5 long haul flights to the Caribbean from TUI between December and April.

[PDXCWL45]

TUI summer 2020 and it does look a carbon copy of 2019 which is actually good as the 3rd based is staying along with the new routes and extra frequencies on other routes.
With no W pattern to BOH it'll be interesting to see if they either expand a route like Dalaman or Antalya or introduce a new route.
A new route would be nice!

[PDXCWL45]

Just to give some context to the effect the loss of Flybe from CWL would have. As well as 3 based aircraft and the jobs they create Flybe carried roughly 480,000 passengers in and out of Cardiff in 2017.

[sixchannel]

Originally Posted by PDXCWL45

Just to give some context to the effect the loss of Flybe from CWL would have. As well as 3 based aircraft and the jobs they create Flybe carried roughly 480,000 passengers in and out of Cardiff in 2017.

Maybe Stobart Air will put in a Bid - again.

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by PDXCWL45

Just to give some context to the effect the loss of Flybe from CWL would have. As well as 3 based aircraft and the jobs they create Flybe carried roughly 480,000 passengers in and out of Cardiff in 2017.

Fortunately they haven't gone yet, hopefully they won't, but whatever, I wouldn't be expecting too much expansion at CWL (anywhere for that matter!). Any new owner will want a quick change in fortunes and that will undoubtedly result in some fairly savage cuts to marginal, non core routes.

Hopefully a new owner will be found, since, as with other hot issues at the moment, and to slightly paraphrase "any deal is better than a bad deal".

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by ATNotts

Fortunately they haven't gone yet, hopefully they won't, but whatever, I wouldn't be expecting too much expansion at CWL (anywhere for that matter!). Any new owner will want a quick change in fortunes and that will undoubtedly result in some fairly savage cuts to marginal, non core routes.

Hopefully a new owner will be found, since, as with other hot issues at the moment, and to slightly paraphrase "any deal is better than a bad deal".

I know fingers crossed that a new owner or investor is found especially one with deep pockets!

[bycrewlgw]

Originally Posted by PDXCWL45

I know fingers crossed that a new owner or investor is found especially one with deep pockets!

hopefully it will be rescued and in the right hands probably could be a good little airline. If they were to fold (hopefully not) who would pick up the slack at Cardiff? FR?

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by bycrewlgw

hopefully it will be rescued and in the right hands probably could be a good little airline. If they were to fold (hopefully not) who would pick up the slack at Cardiff? FR?

I'd have thought that FR would be the first ones CWL calls. Their main worry would be getting capacity back onto Dublin Belfast Edinburgh and Paris Flybe's big 4 routes from Cardiff. With Paris it's possible Air France would be interested.
Apart from Dublin would FR be interested in Belfast and Edinburgh and no doubt opening a base as I'd imagine that is what the airport would want and of course would Ryanair want to take on the 4 Italian routes as well which no doubt the airport would be keen to keep. If they were interested i don't see them operating at Flybe's frequency on EDI DUB and BHD.

[PDXCWL45]

CAA Stats October 2018
140,086 passengers used the airport in October up 4.3% on 2017. The rolling year was 1,566,230 passengers up 7.9% on 2017.
Atms were 1547 up 1.9%.
Top 10 routes October 2018
1. Amsterdam 12,580
2. Tenerife South 10,119
3. Alicante 9315
4. Dublin 9170
5. Malaga 8945
6. Edinburgh 8852
7. Palma de Mallorca 8843
8. Paris CDG 6691
9. Faro 6624
10. Doha 5817

[PDXCWL45]

Domestic routes October 2018
Aberdeen 151 -75%
Anglesey 1406 +11%
Belfast TBA
Edinburgh 8852 +9%
Glasgow 2679 +10%
Jersey 1888 +7%
Liverpool 84
Newcastle 648 -45%
European and International routes October 2018
Larnaca 2267 -20%
Paphos 1729 +16%
Lyon 89
Paris CDG 6691 +40%
Paris Le Bourget 81
Pau 40
Berlin 1059 -36%
Dusseldorf 395 +40%
Munich 1171 -22%
Corfu 1241 -11%
Heraklion 1615 -3%
Kos 1300 -12%
Rhodes 2394 +36%
Zakinthos 864 +129%
Cork 1168 -24%
Dublin 9170 -13%
Milan MXP 1673 -1%
Rome FCO 1534 -9%
Venice 672
Verona 631 -12%
Amsterdam 12,580 +5%
Faro 6624 -1%
Alicante 9315 -10%
Barcelona 2214 +4%
Ibiza 3241 +25%
Madrid 200
Mahon 1214 -6%
Malaga 8945 +5%
Palma de Mallorca 8843 -25%
Reus 525 -71%
Arrecife 4198 -9%
Las Palma 1454 -3%
Tenerife South 10,119 -3%
Vaxjo 56
Antalya 1995
Dalaman 5450 +99%
Doha 5817

[Sharklet_321]

Very disappointing Doha figures