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Old 6th Jan 2018, 04:53
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It looks like to me that they want their own staff to be what the customer sees as their point of contact rather for check in, dispatch and complaints rather than Swissport staff.

As for the positions it doesn't say how many in each but the staffing will have to be spread out over the week as the flights are daily. As for the daily tasks that these jobs require I'll leave that to the experts to say what they have to do.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 05:11
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It's apparent that money is no object, all they would need to have their own airport representation would be a couple of Duty Officers to cover seven days a week overseeing the handling agent and dealing face to face with passenger enquiries.

Check-in opens, what, three hours before and everything should be wrapped up by one hour after departure ... Wow, these staff are going to be working some seriously long hours!

Much easier and cost effective to provide the handling agent with some Qatar uniforms, the agent appoints their own dedicated Qatar check-in staff, then besides a couple of their own staff Qatar don't need to worry about hiring and firing etc.

But then that's too simple for the M. East!
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 09:01
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Of course money is no object. If it was Qatar would not be flying from Cardiff.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 09:15
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So you just assuming that because it's Wales that Qatar can't operate profitable flights? Ever thought that they may know what they are doing? I wonder if they had chosen somewhere else say Belfast if people would be as sceptical.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 10:36
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Qatar chose Cardiff because its a capital. The airline frequently boasts about flying to more capital cities than any other airline. Cardiff ticks that box and they'll probably eventually add Belfast for the same reason. Nothing to do with sound business.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 10:49
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Yet their CEO says the route has to be profitable to be maintained. That sounds like sound business to me.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 11:39
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Profitability is no just seats sold but includes any incentives given to operate the route. I wonder what they are.

On the subject of seat sales Cardiff all through the summer is showing a return fare to Doha 250 pounds less that BHX and MAN and all but the early Heathrow flight.

That is a big difference.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 11:44
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Cardiff is a new route so will be priced to attract new passengers from airlines like Emirates and Etihad and people from the South West. Coincidentally the difference between the Business Class fares on CWL and BHX isn't much.

As for incentives all airports will offer airlines incentives especially if they are new airlines or new routes or important to the airport. I expect CWL and Qatar are no different.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 12:41
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Just look at Cardiff's route network and the destinations within Europe that it fails to sustain. And then look at the lack of airline that see any business case for flying to Cardiff. Yet Qatar see a case for a daily widebody to Doha?! Laughable really. But of course money is no object here.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 12:53
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Have they announced it is to be a widebody?
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 13:05
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Yes Harry Qatar announced it a few weeks ago and already discussed, daily B788.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 13:18
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The large Easyjet base at BRS and previous managerial incompetence is the reason for that. If you look at what the airport is doing with the growing Flybe base and routes, routes returning with TUI and TCX short and long haul. Vueling slowly growing and IB Express operating to the airport. Also Qatar gives CWL a product BRS doesn't have. The passenger numbers are growing as well. When the Welsh government took over in 2013 the yearly pax figure was 1,075,000 for 2017 it should be around 1.45 and for 2018 1.65. The terminal is being upgraded with departures expanded along with 2 new airbridges to be fitted as well. The airport is going in the right direction as is Wales as a country with our national identity getting stronger and Wales becoming more well known internationally and a more popular tourist destination. CWL as an airport and Wales as a country and Cardiff as a city are growing and Qatar will be part of that.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 13:18
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787 8 aircraft.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 14:38
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But there is a reason for the large easyJet base at BRS...

It was inherited of course from Go & when as part of their business plan back in the day Go were looking to establish a second base it was BRS on the list of potential candidates.

Unfortunately CWL was not...The rest is pretty much history.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 20:34
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Qatar Airways

My wife and I visit Australia each year for VFR and usually use Emirates.

However, CWL is our nearest MEB3 airport and we were (still are hopefully) intending to look at it as a serious option in 2018. We visit 'Down Under' in November each year.

Inexplicably (to us anyway) Qatar is showing no web booking availability for CWL after 26 October. The other Qatar UK airports have seen their booking window extended daily (by one day) through November and December to the point where they are now bookable until the end of this year.

A poster on another forum suggested he had seen a Qatar reply to a similar query from someone else stating that for the moment CWL flights for November and December need to be booked offline, presumably by telephone or via a travel agent.

We usually use a well-known long-haul travel agency for our flights to Oz but I like to peruse airline websites first to get an idea of the various options including price and timings.

Is this sort of thing common with Qatar? I've never used them.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 22:03
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I'm actually wondering if it's to do with the rugby Autumn internationals. The fixtures aren't out yet and Qatar may be waiting to liase with tour operators to schedule packages for the flights.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 23:04
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When I travelled to/from Asia each trip I checked schedules and fares with the various airlines and I always found with Qatar that to get anything like a decent fare I was going to need to take some 18 hours in Doha in one or both directions whereas hotel and (at the time) visa would be required whilst reducing the length of my holiday by a day or so, PDQ Doha connections were available but the fares were way too high.
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Old 7th Jan 2018, 09:23
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Head off to Stockholm or Oslo to start your journey.. you can often get returns in J to Australia for 1400-1600 on QR.
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Old 7th Jan 2018, 21:59
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I’ve just left Oslo in Doha right now. We got J class for about 2k each plus a cheap flight from London. Well worth it. BA wanted about 5k each to syd.
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Old 11th Jan 2018, 00:36
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Qatar Airways have released flights from November 2018 onwards.
Flights will be 5 weekly on Monday's, Tuesday's, Thursday's, Friday's and Sunday's.
Monday's and Friday's 07.30-12.10 DOH-CWL CWL-DOH 14.40-00.40
Tuesday's, Thursday's and Saturday's 01.05-05.45 DOH-CWL CWL-DOH 07.05-17.05
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