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Prestwick losses in 2017-2017 period were £7.8m, so it's costing each person in Scotland £1.47
With 678,000 passengers using the airport during that period, you'd need to charge an extra £11.50 per passenger to cover the shortfall. Revenue per passenger is currently £5.49, which appears to be extremely low, however we know how Ryanair hate to pay their way, so increasing this may be tough.
With 678,000 passengers using the airport during that period, you'd need to charge an extra £11.50 per passenger to cover the shortfall. Revenue per passenger is currently £5.49, which appears to be extremely low, however we know how Ryanair hate to pay their way, so increasing this may be tough.
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That's what I thought as well but it seems that it was mentioned previously in relation to the rocket launched sattelite side of things. The space tourist side, if ever developed, is more likely to be from an existing airport.
A rocket was launched in Oct 2015 from the Hebrides Range that would be similar to what would be used at Sutherland.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...lands-35482244
A rocket was launched in Oct 2015 from the Hebrides Range that would be similar to what would be used at Sutherland.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...lands-35482244
The actual press release mentions the following:
- Lockheed Martin to establish vertical launch operations in Sutherland, Scotland and develop innovative technologies in Reading, Berkshire with support from two UK Space Agency grants totalling £23.5 million
- A further £5.5 million will go to British company Orbex to build an innovative new rocket for launch from Sutherland, as part of Government’s modern Industrial Strategy
- This builds on awards of £2.5m to Highlands and Islands Enterprise to develop a vertical launch spaceport in Sutherland and a £2m development fund for horizontal spaceports such as those planned in Cornwall, Glasgow Prestwick and Snowdonia
- Government support for launch is the first step towards a potential Space Sector Deal and the development of a national space programme
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/l...-new-space-age
- A further £5.5 million will go to British company Orbex to build an innovative new rocket for launch from Sutherland, as part of Government’s modern Industrial Strategy
- This builds on awards of £2.5m to Highlands and Islands Enterprise to develop a vertical launch spaceport in Sutherland and a £2m development fund for horizontal spaceports such as those planned in Cornwall, Glasgow Prestwick and Snowdonia
- Government support for launch is the first step towards a potential Space Sector Deal and the development of a national space programme
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/l...-new-space-age
1) Get in a new airline in and get more passengers with a view to moving into profitability
2) Close passenger terminal and downsize to attempt to become profitable on the remainder of the business
3) Launch rockets into space and make money doing so on a consistent basis from the middle of the Scottish TMA
The fact that one of those is even on the table shows how crazy things now are.
2) Close passenger terminal and downsize to attempt to become profitable on the remainder of the business
3) Launch rockets into space and make money doing so on a consistent basis from the middle of the Scottish TMA
The fact that one of those is even on the table shows how crazy things now are.
3) Launch rockets into space and make money doing so on a consistent basis from the middle of the Scottish TMA
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The fact is Prestwick has been looking at horizontal launch space flight, there would be no rockets blasting off from the airfield and interrupting the air traffic.
Launch vehicles would take off (like a plane), fly (like a plane) to the launch area and release the craft which would then boost into orbit while the mothership returns to earth (like a plane). This would have minimum effect on air traffic as the launches of the space cargo would take place away from air traffic corridors. Admittedly this is still some way away from being commercially operative, but Virgin Galactic are making strides towards it happening along.
Launch vehicles would take off (like a plane), fly (like a plane) to the launch area and release the craft which would then boost into orbit while the mothership returns to earth (like a plane). This would have minimum effect on air traffic as the launches of the space cargo would take place away from air traffic corridors. Admittedly this is still some way away from being commercially operative, but Virgin Galactic are making strides towards it happening along.
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What could they do to convince ryanair to open more routes? The likes of Dublin and Shannon used to be popular when they operated. BFS would do well too. Such a shame seeing a good facility going to waste
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1) Get in a new airline in and get more passengers with a view to moving into profitability
2) Close passenger terminal and downsize to attempt to become profitable on the remainder of the business
3) Launch rockets into space and make money doing so on a consistent basis from the middle of the Scottish TMA
The fact that one of those is even on the table shows how crazy things now are.
2) Close passenger terminal and downsize to attempt to become profitable on the remainder of the business
3) Launch rockets into space and make money doing so on a consistent basis from the middle of the Scottish TMA
The fact that one of those is even on the table shows how crazy things now are.
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Local forum hearsay, nothing more.
This decision will have been multifactorial and to suit noone else but Ryanair.
As we know loads and subsequent yields mean nothing.
I would be very surprised however if its easier to fill a 738 with decent fares from PIK than it is from GLA.
This decision will have been multifactorial and to suit noone else but Ryanair.
As we know loads and subsequent yields mean nothing.
I would be very surprised however if its easier to fill a 738 with decent fares from PIK than it is from GLA.
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Not sure how concrete it is, but Ryanair's booking engine has been loaded up for S19, it looks like.
Bydogoszcz looks to be added at 2x weekly. Rzeszow 2x weekly and Fuerteventura and Malta x1 weekly are missing this year, so far at least. Barcelona and Gran Canaria return for the summer at 6x weekly (BCN) and 2x weekly (LPA) after receiving winter cuts this year.
Bydogoszcz looks to be added at 2x weekly. Rzeszow 2x weekly and Fuerteventura and Malta x1 weekly are missing this year, so far at least. Barcelona and Gran Canaria return for the summer at 6x weekly (BCN) and 2x weekly (LPA) after receiving winter cuts this year.
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I think any cuts that take place will mainly be whats in the booking engine just now. Bydogoszcz effectively replaces Rzeszow, Malta and Fuerteventura go and Alicante and Barcelona lose a daily flight.
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I see Spicejet 737 800 Max aircraft are using Prestwick as a refuelling point on their delivery flights. Yesterday's was 8hrs 41mins from Seattle, 1hr stop and 8hrs 31mins to Delhi. I imagine they would need extra tanks fitted for these flights.
The cost, time and inconvenience of having to fit and remove a ferry tank would be far more than simply scheduling an additional stop if the range was insufficient.
