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I guess River Joint you mean me. I'm all for SOU development,but it's had been many years being talked about and I feel they owners have "missed the boat" by some time.,>if and it's a big if, planning permission is given the extension proposed will not be operational till 2021,by which time with the impending Brexit outcome applied ,the uncertainty,fuel costs, environmental concerns etc will not be conjusive to attracting a major player like Easy for example in setting up a base .Flybe continue to under perform and have a stranglehold on the airport,recent times have shown major disruptions at the airport with planes out of position,due to the very restricted opening times at SOU, something that won't change due to the tight opening hours that have been agreed. This alone would not work with airlines that SOU hope to attract ,I'm afraid the proposed development will not give the airport a lifeline that it urgently needs. Look to Southend to see how it could have been,the future at SOU looks deciding uncertain as time progresses.
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I'm a newly recent local who would really relish an opportunity to fly from SOU over London if the option (ie. easyJet or Ryanair or Jet2 or BA Cityflyer) exists. So I am all for SOU development if it means the AREA as a whole benefits. There is no reason whatsoever that SOU can't emulate SEN. Look at the SEN arrival boards - Ryanair and easyJet all coming in well before 23:00 so that style of operation would work incredibly well at SOU with its night restrictions.
The only reason I can imagine that people on this thread are negative right now is probably down to the fact that Flybe are so godamnawful and there is literally no other airport in the country that has such a Flybe stronghold with bad service for customers, no alternatives to choose from... I avoid Flybe I don't avoid SOU.
The only reason I can imagine that people on this thread are negative right now is probably down to the fact that Flybe are so godamnawful and there is literally no other airport in the country that has such a Flybe stronghold with bad service for customers, no alternatives to choose from... I avoid Flybe I don't avoid SOU.
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June passenger performance
June passengers 167,800 -10.6%
Rolling 12 month total 1,901,946 -7.5%
Positives
Guernsey 14,310 v 10,912 +31%
Bastia 565 v 466 +21%
Nantes 1,795 v 1,541 +16%
Mahon 739 v 718 +3%
Paris CDG 7,010 v 6,774 +3%
Biarritz 606 v 594 +2%
Dusseldorf 2,692 v 2,630 +2%
Faro 2,841 v 2,792 +2%
Negatives:
Bordeaux 1,165 v 1,950 -40%
Leeds Bradford 1,958 v 3,048 -36%
Avignon 457 v 701 -35%
Limoges 1,093 v 1,631 -33%
Amsterdam 13,760 v 20,204 -32%
Verona 1,272 v 1,865 -32%
Toulon 687 v 901 -24%
Dublin 11,299 v 14,045 -20%
Glasgow 14,405 v 17,052 -16%
Alicante 4,781 v 5,397 -11%
La Rochelle 1,874 v 2,085 -10%
Malaga 3,617 v 4,035 -10%
Palma 4,284 v 4,700 -9%
Alderney 2,096 v 2,282 -8%
Jersey 13,890 v 14,962 -7%
Bergerac 4,026 v 4,281 -6%
Newcastle 9,795 v 10,352 -5%
Rennes 1,547 v 1,633 -5%
Perpignan 560 v 581 -4%
Manchester 16,760 v 17,441 -4%
Ibiza 960 v 980 -2%
Edinburgh 15,269 v 15,389 -1%
No longer operated:
Cork 0
Rodez 0
Aberdeen 0
Brescia 0
Data not available:
Belfast City
Rolling 12 month total 1,901,946 -7.5%
Positives
Guernsey 14,310 v 10,912 +31%
Bastia 565 v 466 +21%
Nantes 1,795 v 1,541 +16%
Mahon 739 v 718 +3%
Paris CDG 7,010 v 6,774 +3%
Biarritz 606 v 594 +2%
Dusseldorf 2,692 v 2,630 +2%
Faro 2,841 v 2,792 +2%
Negatives:
Bordeaux 1,165 v 1,950 -40%
Leeds Bradford 1,958 v 3,048 -36%
Avignon 457 v 701 -35%
Limoges 1,093 v 1,631 -33%
Amsterdam 13,760 v 20,204 -32%
Verona 1,272 v 1,865 -32%
Toulon 687 v 901 -24%
Dublin 11,299 v 14,045 -20%
Glasgow 14,405 v 17,052 -16%
Alicante 4,781 v 5,397 -11%
La Rochelle 1,874 v 2,085 -10%
Malaga 3,617 v 4,035 -10%
Palma 4,284 v 4,700 -9%
Alderney 2,096 v 2,282 -8%
Jersey 13,890 v 14,962 -7%
Bergerac 4,026 v 4,281 -6%
Newcastle 9,795 v 10,352 -5%
Rennes 1,547 v 1,633 -5%
Perpignan 560 v 581 -4%
Manchester 16,760 v 17,441 -4%
Ibiza 960 v 980 -2%
Edinburgh 15,269 v 15,389 -1%
No longer operated:
Cork 0
Rodez 0
Aberdeen 0
Brescia 0
Data not available:
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So the end of August nears,any announcements? .It's the same old story - lots of bluster, possibilities,but essentially no real developments. Passenger figures on many routes decline,while at other airports i.e. Bournemouth and especially Southend seem to be be on the up!.The reason for this is they have a dynamic management team ,and airside improvements that have encompassd the needs of today's air trave!, something that SOU should have addressed years ago!. Simply SOU will continue to decline in the near future if there are no progressive developments . Next few months are critical to the airports future!
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That I would imagine Easy Jet put on sale there summer schedule of 2020 minus anything from SOU ,
that they have never promised , until possible “ said works are done “ ?
that they have never promised , until possible “ said works are done “ ?
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July’s CAA stats out and once again the airport is hemorrhaging passengers, down 20k versus same month last year with a 9% reduction. All routes suffering except those to the Balearics that seem to be holding up!
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July 182,773 -9.2%
Rolling 12 months 1,883,476
Positives:
Guernsey 15,658 39%
Palma 4,293 11%
Alderney 2,958 4%
Mahon 565 4%
No change:
Malaga 3,765
Alicante 5,543
Edinburgh 16,804
Negatives:
Toulon 555 -52%
Verona 1,051 -36%
Leeds Bradford 2,149 -30%
Perpignan 331 -30%
Limoges 1,270 -30%
Brest 434 -24%
Amsterdam 14,599 -28%
Dublin 12,505 -19%
Bastia 467 -14%
Dusseldorf 2,860 -14%
La Rochelle 2,095 -13%
Faro 2,532 -12%
Avignon 510 -12%
Belfast City 11,902 -11%
Bordeaux 2,211 -10%
Jersey 15,203 -7%
Ibiza 908 -6%
Rennes 1,723 -5%
Bergerac 4,487 -3%
Nantes 2,209 -3%
Biarritz 449 -3%
Manchester 18,384 -2%
Paris CDG 7,442 -2%
Data not yet available:
Newcastle
Glasgow
Misc:
Rodez - discontinued
Cork - discontinued
Skiathos - discontinued
Rotterdam 53 pax
Toulouse 63 pax
Split 33 pax
East Midlands 31 pax
Rolling 12 months 1,883,476
Positives:
Guernsey 15,658 39%
Palma 4,293 11%
Alderney 2,958 4%
Mahon 565 4%
No change:
Malaga 3,765
Alicante 5,543
Edinburgh 16,804
Negatives:
Toulon 555 -52%
Verona 1,051 -36%
Leeds Bradford 2,149 -30%
Perpignan 331 -30%
Limoges 1,270 -30%
Brest 434 -24%
Amsterdam 14,599 -28%
Dublin 12,505 -19%
Bastia 467 -14%
Dusseldorf 2,860 -14%
La Rochelle 2,095 -13%
Faro 2,532 -12%
Avignon 510 -12%
Belfast City 11,902 -11%
Bordeaux 2,211 -10%
Jersey 15,203 -7%
Ibiza 908 -6%
Rennes 1,723 -5%
Bergerac 4,487 -3%
Nantes 2,209 -3%
Biarritz 449 -3%
Manchester 18,384 -2%
Paris CDG 7,442 -2%
Data not yet available:
Newcastle
Glasgow
Misc:
Rodez - discontinued
Cork - discontinued
Skiathos - discontinued
Rotterdam 53 pax
Toulouse 63 pax
Split 33 pax
East Midlands 31 pax
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July 182,773 -9.2%
Rolling 12 months 1,883,476
Positives:
Guernsey 15,658 39%
Palma 4,293 11%
Alderney 2,958 4%
Mahon 565 4%
No change:
Malaga 3,765
Alicante 5,543
Edinburgh 16,804
Negatives:
Toulon 555 -52%
Verona 1,051 -36%
Leeds Bradford 2,149 -30%
Perpignan 331 -30%
Limoges 1,270 -30%
Brest 434 -24%
Amsterdam 14,599 -28%
Dublin 12,505 -19%
Bastia 467 -14%
Dusseldorf 2,860 -14%
La Rochelle 2,095 -13%
Faro 2,532 -12%
Avignon 510 -12%
Belfast City 11,902 -11%
Bordeaux 2,211 -10%
Jersey 15,203 -7%
Ibiza 908 -6%
Rennes 1,723 -5%
Bergerac 4,487 -3%
Nantes 2,209 -3%
Biarritz 449 -3%
Manchester 18,384 -2%
Paris CDG 7,442 -2%
Data not yet available:
Newcastle
Glasgow
Misc:
Rodez - discontinued
Cork - discontinued
Skiathos - discontinued
Rotterdam 53 pax
Toulouse 63 pax
Split 33 pax
East Midlands 31 pax
Rolling 12 months 1,883,476
Positives:
Guernsey 15,658 39%
Palma 4,293 11%
Alderney 2,958 4%
Mahon 565 4%
No change:
Malaga 3,765
Alicante 5,543
Edinburgh 16,804
Negatives:
Toulon 555 -52%
Verona 1,051 -36%
Leeds Bradford 2,149 -30%
Perpignan 331 -30%
Limoges 1,270 -30%
Brest 434 -24%
Amsterdam 14,599 -28%
Dublin 12,505 -19%
Bastia 467 -14%
Dusseldorf 2,860 -14%
La Rochelle 2,095 -13%
Faro 2,532 -12%
Avignon 510 -12%
Belfast City 11,902 -11%
Bordeaux 2,211 -10%
Jersey 15,203 -7%
Ibiza 908 -6%
Rennes 1,723 -5%
Bergerac 4,487 -3%
Nantes 2,209 -3%
Biarritz 449 -3%
Manchester 18,384 -2%
Paris CDG 7,442 -2%
Data not yet available:
Newcastle
Glasgow
Misc:
Rodez - discontinued
Cork - discontinued
Skiathos - discontinued
Rotterdam 53 pax
Toulouse 63 pax
Split 33 pax
East Midlands 31 pax
As the saying goes..'every picture tells a story'...however what has really changed at SOU? Perhaps the answer is in the question...nothing. The the airlines have moved on, with new equipment requiring updated infrastructure airside and SOU has been left behind.
It seems to me that benign neglect is now the policy, perhaps the shareholders know more about the long term plan, and that may not be aviation orientated. I hope I am wrong. It was and could be a great airport.
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Not so good news regarding the Easyjet Geneva route
Looks like Easyjet have dropped the Tuesday mid week rotation except for February half term when 2 flights are operating
I am surprised that Inghams Ski and Crystal haven’t used Easyjet for Sunday flights like they have at Bournemouth , they take a large section of flights and seem to sell very well , in fact the second Saturday flight is nearly all taken up
Tuesday flights were always going to be hard to sell
especially 180 seats mid January
Looks like Easyjet have dropped the Tuesday mid week rotation except for February half term when 2 flights are operating
I am surprised that Inghams Ski and Crystal haven’t used Easyjet for Sunday flights like they have at Bournemouth , they take a large section of flights and seem to sell very well , in fact the second Saturday flight is nearly all taken up
Tuesday flights were always going to be hard to sell
especially 180 seats mid January
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It looks like the Tuesday flights operate at the start of the season in December for two weeks, are dropped in January, return for two weeks around February half term, and then stop after that for the rest of the season.
It’s less flights for the airport but it does seem more efficient from the airline’s point of view, hopefully the remaining flights are profitable if they’ve been kept.
At least they haven’t pulled out completely!
(crossing fingers that those words don’t come back to haunt me!)
It’s less flights for the airport but it does seem more efficient from the airline’s point of view, hopefully the remaining flights are profitable if they’ve been kept.
At least they haven’t pulled out completely!
(crossing fingers that those words don’t come back to haunt me!)
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Southampton continues to decline ,month on month,at the present rate it must be up for the fastest declining UK airport, eventually these figures will not be sustainable. Year on year poor management,no real investment,has started a accelerating decline. It seems that as mentioned in another post the owners perhaps have development plans,which are not aviation driven. Expect Futher declines in pax , movements and lack of news in the next 12 months. The question is will there be a airport still in the next few years?
I think highly unlightly,if the trend continues.
I think highly unlightly,if the trend continues.
The bird nesting season also come and gone, no tree work either?
Can anyone come up with anything currently positive about SOU?
Is TUI still planning SOU-PMI/IBZ and MAH for Summer 2020 (using Volotea this year) - any expansion for IT charters?
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It looks a carbon copy of this year
Tues. Palma. Volotea B717
Thu. Ibiza. Volotea B717
Sat. Palma. Volotea B717
Sat. Mahon. Flybe DHC8
Could be that TUI reschedules the Flybe flight next year depending the outcome of there involvement of 3rd party flying
Regarding any extra flights or new destinations I think that TUI have probably finished launching there summer 2020 programme, the last bit was done in July 19
Tues. Palma. Volotea B717
Thu. Ibiza. Volotea B717
Sat. Palma. Volotea B717
Sat. Mahon. Flybe DHC8
Could be that TUI reschedules the Flybe flight next year depending the outcome of there involvement of 3rd party flying
Regarding any extra flights or new destinations I think that TUI have probably finished launching there summer 2020 programme, the last bit was done in July 19