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Old 25th Apr 2019, 16:11
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So boring reading posts saying it’s the end of SOU, so what some irrelevant company who no one really knows has failed - yes it’s sad for holidaymakers who have holidays ruined but it won’t lead to the closure of the airport.

The runway extension should happen, and the airport needs to focus on getting someone like EasyJet to set up base. Everyone always goes on about the airport not having enough custom but it’s the heart of the UKs eight largest urban area and can sustain established routes with high frequencies that other comparable airports including CWL, EXT and BOH can only dream of.
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Old 25th Apr 2019, 16:30
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Originally Posted by The Nutts Mutts
Has the whole company gone under or have they just dropped the SOU programme?
Doesn't look to have gone under, they're still offering charters from Manchester and Gatwick for Christmas, but their SOU ops have been canned, even though they're still advertising it on their home page.

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I did find it very odd that you had two well experienced industry professionals involved with Flylolo yet much of their online presence seemed rather amateur.
From what I know, the ex TUI guy that the trade press reported had joined them last year left a few months ago, make of that what you will.
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Old 25th Apr 2019, 16:58
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No fears...2020 beckons.

The CEO chappie blames "owners of an aircraft who pulled out over uncertainty surrounding Brexit"

The CEO "could not disclose who the owner is due to a non-disclosure agreement".

Any payments will be refunded within 10 days.

Are hopefully looking to operate from SOU in 2020 now.
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Old 25th Apr 2019, 17:09
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Originally Posted by southside bobby
No fears...2020 beckons.

The CEO chappie blames "owners of an aircraft who pulled out over uncertainty surrounding Brexit"

The CEO "could not disclose who the owner is due to a non-disclosure agreement".

Any payments will be refunded within 10 days.

Are hopefully looking to operate from SOU in 2020 now.
What a load of horsesh*t. He has a legal obligation to tell the customer at the time of booking who is operating the aircraft. Given the hard sell that he's been pushing on Linked in for the last few months (clearly a marketing genius using a biz to biz site for that).
It's pretty obvious that the bookings must have been rubbish.
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Old 25th Apr 2019, 18:33
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Just had a look at the CEO’s LinkedIn page as I haven’t been able to find the Flylolo statement about cancelling the SOU flights and thought it might be on there.
He’s sticking up for Jason Unsworth’s (of Atmosphere Airlines fame) plan to rescue Jet Airways by becoming the majority shareholder.
If he’s a serious fan of Mr Unsworth then I completely doubt his decision-making abilities and business acumen.
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Old 25th Apr 2019, 19:05
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Find it on thebreeze.com
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Old 25th Apr 2019, 21:35
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Originally Posted by Chris_747
Doesn't look to have gone under, they're still offering charters from Manchester and Gatwick for Christmas, but their SOU ops have been canned, even though they're still advertising it on their home page.
The same charters that also had a Glasgow-Tenerife for the 4 new years and it operated a grand total of 0, i have a feeling Manchester and Gatwick were the same
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Old 3rd May 2019, 16:02
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What's is happening at SOU?,well frankly very little!. Airlines dissapear,frequenties diminish,and no new routes or increases. Its May and we are no further down the line on any announcements on runway extension,really could there be a more depressing situation. It's seems the airport is on a increasing decline spiral,with very little to look forward to.
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Old 3rd May 2019, 16:06
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Originally Posted by RW20
What's is happening at SOU?,well frankly very little!. Airlines dissapear,frequenties diminish,and no new routes or increases. Its May and we are no further down the line on any announcements on runway extension,really could there be a more depressing situation. It's seems the airport is on a increasing decline spiral,with very little to look forward to.
Same story at ABZ and GLA and guess what? Same owners
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Old 3rd May 2019, 16:44
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Well at this rate I can't see SOU surviving long term,Good luck to BOU who seem to be on the up and up with the right management!
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Old 3rd May 2019, 22:23
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Originally Posted by RW20
Well at this rate I can't see SOU surviving long term,Good luck to BOU who seem to be on the up and up with the right management!
BOH (!) is on the up a bit at what it does, but the reality is it's never going to be able to offer the high-frequency routes for business that SOU does (and hopefully continues to), simply because of where it is and how badly it's connected on the ground.
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Old 7th May 2019, 08:51
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Some good news for the airport, BE/VS look to be closely mirroring their winter timetable from last year for 19/20 with the only exceptions being Aberdeen, Nantes & Alicante being dropped. A clear commitment from the new company for SOU!!
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Old 7th May 2019, 09:27
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Originally Posted by stewyb
only exceptions being Aberdeen, Nantes & Alicante being dropped.
So the restructuring of some routes begins it seems, not a huge loss. Aberdeen and Nantes probably make sense (although I don't know the actual winter loads for them??) Alicante no doubt due to the RYN presence down the road at BOH.
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Old 7th May 2019, 09:41
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ABZ was an outlier anyway as it wasn’t a proper scheduled route- it seemed to be seats sold on a positioning flight which went ABZ-SOU on Friday evenings and SOU-ABZ on Sunday evenings. The aircraft operated flights from SOU over the weekend. Loads were usually around 75%
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Old 7th May 2019, 13:33
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According to CAA stats, Alicante is Southampton's 11th busiest route in 2018 carrying almost 39,000 Flybe pax, BOH only carried 61,000 despite it being operated by Ryanair. Not much in it!
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Old 7th May 2019, 15:46
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Originally Posted by shamrock7seal
According to CAA stats, Alicante is Southampton's 11th busiest route in 2018 carrying almost 39,000 Flybe pax, BOH only carried 61,000 despite it being operated by Ryanair. Not much in it!
Err my maths was never very good, but isn't 61,000 rather more than 39,000? Just thought I'd ask and perhaps I'm missing some vital and valid point.
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Old 7th May 2019, 16:44
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Beat me to it 61, 000 is a pretty good figure for Alicante from BOH and 39 , 000 with Flybe from SOU slightly less

There is nothing to say that Flybe / VS may well operate to ALC on the DHC. 8 later on next winter, once they have established what their core routes are going to be

Good news for SOU that the network remains intact for the winter
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Old 7th May 2019, 17:31
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Originally Posted by Planespeaking

Err my maths was never very good, but isn't 61,000 rather more than 39,000? Just thought I'd ask and perhaps I'm missing some vital and valid point.
Considering the large difference in the size of planes used it’s pretty good going from Flybe.
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Old 7th May 2019, 18:43
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Considering the large difference in the size of planes used it’s pretty good going from Flybe.
The year round Alicante service of 39000 passengers gives a 'back of a fag packet' load factor of circa 85% (using a mix of Q400/E95), a great performance and clearly demonstrates the viability of this route in competition with RYR at BOH. Not sure whether it will be back this winter with BE's med routes being cut although any perspective operator I'm sure will have their eye on this once the runway extension is complete!
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Old 7th May 2019, 18:56
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Originally Posted by stewyb
The year round Alicante service of 39000 passengers gives a 'back of a fag packet' load factor of circa 85% (using a mix of Q400/E95), a great performance and clearly demonstrates the viability of this route in competition with RYR at BOH. Not sure whether it will be back this winter with BE's med routes being cut although any perspective operator I'm sure will have their eye on this once the runway extension is complete!
What is the latest news on the ' masterplan' and the proposed runway extension?
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