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Seems strange to me that a company such as KLM would only give the route two years at poor timings and not attempt to improve timings before quitting completely. They seem to make Inverness work at single daily. How long did they give Liverpool?
It may be worthwhile considering that KLM are likely to have been less than impressed with Flybe's launch and expansion on BHX-AMS and MAN-AMS, so SOU-AMS could conceivably have had other motives. It will be interesting to see whether there is now any further rationalisation of UK-Amsterdam capacity, or indeed whether Flybe will up SOU-AMS again given it is now to carry any KLM traffic.
But from KLM's point of view, it's pretty difficult. There was no point in them putting a nightstop in SOU - virtually all nightstops leave the UK airports at 06:00 to meet the early morning wave at AMS. You can't do that from Southampton because of the airfield opening hours.
But from KLM's point of view, it's pretty difficult. There was no point in them putting a nightstop in SOU - virtually all nightstops leave the UK airports at 06:00 to meet the early morning wave at AMS. You can't do that from Southampton because of the airfield opening hours.
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FLybe are tottering on the abyss,SOU have vastly underperformed,KLM gone what's left?
If FLybe contract or even go what's left?
It's a poor situation that could have been resolved long ago with progressive management and airside development,but will this ever happen?
Like Brexit all could change!
If FLybe contract or even go what's left?
It's a poor situation that could have been resolved long ago with progressive management and airside development,but will this ever happen?
Like Brexit all could change!
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FLybe are tottering on the abyss,SOU have vastly underperformed,KLM gone what's left?
If FLybe contract or even go what's left?
It's a poor situation that could have been resolved long ago with progressive management and airside development,but will this ever happen?
Like Brexit all could change!
If FLybe contract or even go what's left?
It's a poor situation that could have been resolved long ago with progressive management and airside development,but will this ever happen?
Like Brexit all could change!
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But from KLM's point of view, it's pretty difficult. There was no point in them putting a nightstop in SOU - virtually all nightstops leave the UK airports at 06:00 to meet the early morning wave at AMS. You can't do that from Southampton because of the airfield opening hours.
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2230 monday - Friday. Saturday 2130, Sunday 2230, PPR till 2300.
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Exceptions are sometimes made, I flew in on the Flylolo/Flybe flight from Skiathos on October 2, and after being told shortly after a very late departure from Skiathos that we would be diverted to Exeter - towards the end of the flight we received the good news that SOU would remain open for our arrival, and touched down eventually around 23.40. But I think generally the restrictions are enforced fairly strictly as it is all part of the planning consent for airfield operations.
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Exceptions are sometimes made, I flew in on the Flybe flight from Skiathos on October 2, and after being told shortly after a very late departure from Skiathos that we would be diverted to Exeter - towards the end of the flight we received the good news that SOU would remain open for our arrival, and touched down eventually around 23.40. But I think generally the restrictions are enforced fairly strictly as it is all part of the planning consent for airfield operations.
the latest I've seen is 2345.
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Having viewed the airport's promo video for S19 just released, it seems Flylolo are now down to 8 routes being sold from the original 14 (although their website still shows 12 selling). God knows whats going on or if they have now secured an aircraft. SOU need some new airlines/destinations pronto as their Wikipedia page on routes is now looking very thin!
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Surely there's going to be some good news for SOU soon!
How can management turn around? With airlines leaving, uncertainty with its main and now virtually only carrier,its time to pull out some good news!
How can management turn around? With airlines leaving, uncertainty with its main and now virtually only carrier,its time to pull out some good news!
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Maybe EZY will announce AMS & PMI later this month as part of their S19 new routes schedule, was that a pig I just saw take off!!
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It was rumered a sukhoi superjet was doing it. But I doubt it will even go. The e195 was capped at 97 pax. One time they put too much fuel and it leaked a tonne on the stand. Their prices are ludacris. £495 for Murcia in august.
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According to their MD, SOU want the runway extension ready for S20. If you class the start of summer season for airlines as April, work could be commencing in the Autumn of 2019 (6/7 month timescale?)
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What's the chance of this runway extension getting approval?
If so can anybody actually give the TODA for 20 and the 02 LODA,are these distances sufficient for 320 neo operation?
If so can anybody actually give the TODA for 20 and the 02 LODA,are these distances sufficient for 320 neo operation?