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Surely it's in everyone's interest that BOTH airports prosper rather than listen to supposedly grown men/women argue the toss about who's airport is more shiny. Get a grip.
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Why can't you lot just get along? Seriously you should all be embarrassed and ashamed of yourselves. Do you actually know what your petty quarrels look like to visitors of this thread? It's childish, grow up.
Surely it's in everyone's interest that BOTH airports prosper rather than listen to supposedly grown men/women argue the toss about who's airport is more shiny. Get a grip.
Surely it's in everyone's interest that BOTH airports prosper rather than listen to supposedly grown men/women argue the toss about who's airport is more shiny. Get a grip.
How hard is it really to have a sensible conversation/debate about SOU (and also BOH for that matter) without resorting to this?
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^^^ Here Here, Exactly This ^^^ . Some of the posters here should be confined to ‘Jet Blast’ where they can set up a thread called ‘my airport is better than yours’.
Unless there is a dramatic change of circumstances SOU should be a thriving business orientated regional airport and BOH a thriving leisure orientated regional airport, each playing to its strengths.
Unless there is a dramatic change of circumstances SOU should be a thriving business orientated regional airport and BOH a thriving leisure orientated regional airport, each playing to its strengths.
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SOU Management confirmed to me in a tweet ‘Hi Graham, Flybe is reducing services, which is regrettable. However, this reinforces the case for investment in our runway to ensure we can offer more choice for passengers. We’re having discussions with other airlines to backfill routes and growth plans continue unaffected. FP
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SOU Management confirmed to me in a tweet ‘Hi Graham, Flybe is reducing services, which is regrettable. However, this reinforces the case for investment in our runway to ensure we can offer more choice for passengers. We’re having discussions with other airlines to backfill routes and growth plans continue unaffected. FP
If an airport does not have a runway long enough to offer viable payloads with modern equipment, and constrains destination options any prospective carrier is going to think twice. It's basic economics , and no wishful thinking will change that.
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Any runway improvement won't be ready for next summer but when Marlhill Copse is complete (by Spring '20), I believe this adds a few tonnes to take off weight. Every little helps as they say and might sway an airline to run a sun route ot two. TCAS FAN may be able to clarify this!
Any runway improvement won't be ready for next summer but when Marlhill Copse is complete (by Spring '20), I believe this adds a few tonnes to take off weight. Every little helps as they say and might sway an airline to run a sun route ot two. TCAS FAN may be able to clarify this!
Improvements to RWY 20 takeoff weights resulting from the tree work cannot be quantified until new Type A Charts are published. As mentioned in my previous posts I would speculate that they will not appear until late February/March, probably too late for S20 schedule planning.
TLN looks available on Skyscanner 1 weekly Sun!
I wonder if anything further will come when the next (final?) tranche of the Flybe S19 timetable is announced?
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Why can't you lot just get along? Seriously you should all be embarrassed and ashamed of yourselves. Do you actually know what your petty quarrels look like to visitors of this thread? It's childish, grow up.
Surely it's in everyone's interest that BOTH airports prosper rather than listen to supposedly grown men/women argue the toss about who's airport is more shiny. Get a grip.
Surely it's in everyone's interest that BOTH airports prosper rather than listen to supposedly grown men/women argue the toss about who's airport is more shiny. Get a grip.
Deapite all the doom doom and gloom, all of which is perfectly explainable and not SOU specific, the future is very bright for SOU and all the dithering was done under the watch of a known procrastinator. I have every faith in the new MD driving SOU on to better things. In fact he appears to eat and sleep SOU judging by his social media activity.
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The answers to your points have been known for a while. The Embraer leases were a very bad deal for BE, and they have been trying to get rid of them for years. The sun routes have always been on borrowed time. The issue has been that no other operator really has the aircraft to make the sun routes work, but SOU are finally addressing this by extending the runway etc. I do not want to keep bringing up SEN, but look how well it’s doing since it’s runway was extended etc. Low costs carriers have to keep growing, the second they take the foot of the gas they usually falter. EZY buying slots at LGW for a large amount of money is proof of this. Unless another operator with slots goes bankrupt (cannot think of any apart from Tui which is unlikely), then they have to open bases at surrounding airports like SEN, SOU etc. We cannot judge SOU until the infrastructure that low cost operators with their bigger aircraft require is put in place. Plans are clearly in place for this to happen shortly. Cheer up everyone.
But on other routes BE have replaced expensive leased EMB with cheaper Stobart ones - clearly the SOU sun routes didn't warrant that. And looks like GVA didn't either.
And looks like GVA didn't either
As far as I know this was mainly (or exclusively) a Q400 route.
Deapite all the doom doom and gloom, all of which is perfectly explainable and not SOU specific, the future is very bright for SOU and all the dithering was done under the watch of a known procrastinator. I have every faith in the new MD driving SOU on to better things. In fact he appears to eat and sleep SOU judging by his social media activity.
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Looks like the opposition to any expansion is rapidly increasing,as time progresses with no planning application still,surely the chances of anything happening is diminishing at a fast rate
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BBC and Echo both today reports large petition lobbying councillors against awarding the SOU PP for runway expansion citing the enviro and climate - Not going to go away anytime soon...
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