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Latest news regarding the Fly Lolo " saga / soap / serial " is they are still on track to operate peak flights from Southampton which are 8 routes advertised and on a TV comercial from SOU , but there own Fly Lolo website shows another 3 routes on sale still
Regarding the aircraft operating they are back to either a FK 70 or a Boeing 737 300 , operating from within the EU , with an announcement due soon !!
Watch this space , again !!
Regarding the aircraft operating they are back to either a FK 70 or a Boeing 737 300 , operating from within the EU , with an announcement due soon !!
Watch this space , again !!
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Stansted to Liverpool Street takes 47 minutes by the way.
The quickest journey from Southampton Airport to Waterloo takes 1hr 12.
Southampton is definitely not a London airport.
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Didn’t they only run for a couple of peak weeks over Christmas? For balance how many on the return leg?
OK my bets odds on for 2019/2020
EZY will add more seasonal flights from SOU - maybe W's at first or inbound from foreign bases (like the GVA is now)
An almighty rumpus re Flybe's buyout (It's brewing)
Fly Lolo maybe will cobble some of their S19 flights together with an aircraft for this summer, but I reckon we will not see them back for 2020
Stephen Bath will make a conservative come back at BOH with a reborn Palmair
EZY will add more seasonal flights from SOU - maybe W's at first or inbound from foreign bases (like the GVA is now)
An almighty rumpus re Flybe's buyout (It's brewing)
Fly Lolo maybe will cobble some of their S19 flights together with an aircraft for this summer, but I reckon we will not see them back for 2020
Stephen Bath will make a conservative come back at BOH with a reborn Palmair
From Stansted the train goes directly to London Liverpool Street not Euston. So by having to change trains to get to Euston you’re not really comparing like for like are you?
Stansted to Liverpool Street takes 47 minutes by the way.
The quickest journey from Southampton Airport to Waterloo takes 1hr 12.
Southampton is definitely not a London airport.
However you may be missing my point.
It takes around one hour from touch down at Stansted, to taxy to stand, disembark, walk to immigration, (queue at immigration!), walk through airport to station, best I’ve managed is 40 minutes.
from touchdown to station at Southampton is around 15 minutes, although I have done it in 7!
i base the estimates above on extensive recent experience of both airports and from runway to central London, Southampton is faster.
For 20+ years SOU has had an alternative departure procedure depicted on a Type A obstacle chart " Runway 20 +15° slew". This is intended to turn the aircraft away from the hill, to provide a much better obstacle environment, thereby permitting increased take-off weights (ie more fuel and/or PAX). The problem was/is trees in Marhill Copse - were/are too close to the end of the runway to permit execution of the turn to take advantage of the improved obstacle environment. Fix the tree problem to permit a turn to use the "15° slew" + add the starter strip and we are in to to my "icing on cake" sceanrio!
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Believe they cancelled Glasgow at xmas because of low sales so doubt they'd have run Manchester if they only sold 7 seats on the actual return flights
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I would be surprised if Easy jet continued the Geneva route into April now
Looking at past years the earliest they put that month on sale was November and the latest was end of January ( based on Bournemouth records )
No idea yet how it’s performed this year as December figures still not available
Looking at past years the earliest they put that month on sale was November and the latest was end of January ( based on Bournemouth records )
No idea yet how it’s performed this year as December figures still not available
The whole thing seems a missed opportunity despite them employing 2 very notable folk from the package Hol and flight only Industry who in the past have run very tight operations with big companies.
The SOU TV advert shown two weeks ago at peak time has not been seen since and was IMHO a bit weak
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CAA passenger figures for December 18 are now out. Looking specifically at the Geneva route, 2608 people were carried in the month.
That’s a 15% reduction from the year before but this was mostly down to this December having less flights- easyJet had 2 more rotations the year before.
Flybe’s average load was 58 per flight, giving them 1038 of the total. They averaged 61 per flight last year.
Easyjet carried 1570 on 12 flights, which comes out as an average of 131 pax per flight, an increase on last year when their average was 124.
BOH was also 124 last year, and is up slightly to 127 this year.
That’s a 15% reduction from the year before but this was mostly down to this December having less flights- easyJet had 2 more rotations the year before.
Flybe’s average load was 58 per flight, giving them 1038 of the total. They averaged 61 per flight last year.
Easyjet carried 1570 on 12 flights, which comes out as an average of 131 pax per flight, an increase on last year when their average was 124.
BOH was also 124 last year, and is up slightly to 127 this year.
Last edited by The Nutts Mutts; 12th Feb 2019 at 09:58. Reason: Got Flybe numbers wrong- 58 pf, not 52
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CAA passenger figures for December 18 are now out. Looking specifically at the Geneva route, 2608 people were carried in the month.
That’s a 15% reduction from the year before but this was mostly down to this December having less flights- easyJet had 2 more rotations the year before.
Flybe’s average load was 52 per flight, giving them 1038 of the total. They averaged 61 per flight last year.
Easyjet carried 1570 on 12 flights, which comes out as an average of 131 pax per flight, an increase on last year when their average was 124.
BOH was also 124 last year, and is up slightly to 127 this year.
That’s a 15% reduction from the year before but this was mostly down to this December having less flights- easyJet had 2 more rotations the year before.
Flybe’s average load was 52 per flight, giving them 1038 of the total. They averaged 61 per flight last year.
Easyjet carried 1570 on 12 flights, which comes out as an average of 131 pax per flight, an increase on last year when their average was 124.
BOH was also 124 last year, and is up slightly to 127 this year.
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Also, two out of their three weekly flights from SOU are midweek and they don’t yet have any on Saturday, the peak changeover day.
It’s maybe not quite as important around Christmas, but if they continue to show growth through the rest of the season you’d have to assume that their loads could be even higher if they had more weekend flights.
It’s maybe not quite as important around Christmas, but if they continue to show growth through the rest of the season you’d have to assume that their loads could be even higher if they had more weekend flights.
you’d have to assume that their loads could be even higher if they had more weekend flights.
BOH is daily now except Tues and Weds
SOU is Thu Sun Tues
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CAA passenger figures for December 18 are now out. Looking specifically at the Geneva route, 2608 people were carried in the month.
That’s a 15% reduction from the year before but this was mostly down to this December having less flights- easyJet had 2 more rotations the year before.
Flybe’s average load was 52 per flight, giving them 1038 of the total. They averaged 61 per flight last year.
Easyjet carried 1570 on 12 flights, which comes out as an average of 131 pax per flight, an increase on last year when their average was 124.
BOH was also 124 last year, and is up slightly to 127 this year.
That’s a 15% reduction from the year before but this was mostly down to this December having less flights- easyJet had 2 more rotations the year before.
Flybe’s average load was 52 per flight, giving them 1038 of the total. They averaged 61 per flight last year.
Easyjet carried 1570 on 12 flights, which comes out as an average of 131 pax per flight, an increase on last year when their average was 124.
BOH was also 124 last year, and is up slightly to 127 this year.
Just a question to you , I was wondering where you got the Flybe figure from of averaging 52 per flight as the figures provided are all lumped into together making it difficult to work out their respective loads
Not criticising at all just curious ?
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Both Flylolo Facebook and Twitter accounts show no activity since well before Xmas - Not a good sign when you are trying to market a new product for this Summer...
The whole thing seems a missed opportunity despite them employing 2 very notable folk from the package Hol and flight only Industry who in the past have run very tight operations with big companies.
The SOU TV advert shown two weeks ago at peak time has not been seen since and was IMHO a bit weak
The whole thing seems a missed opportunity despite them employing 2 very notable folk from the package Hol and flight only Industry who in the past have run very tight operations with big companies.
The SOU TV advert shown two weeks ago at peak time has not been seen since and was IMHO a bit weak
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Your wish is my command! Data from FlightAware and CAA website for December 2018. I’ve only looked at airports where I’m confident EasyJet are the only operator to GVA, otherwise it’s impossible to tell how the total number of passengers is split between airlines.
Average pax per flight Dec 18:
NCL 145
LPL 140
SEN 139
SOU 131
ABZ 128
BOH 127
BFS 125
GLA 125