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Personally I'll believe it when I see an Air France plane on the tarmac at SOU, particularly from a French regional destination. I'd say if it happens at all it'll most likely be a CDG connection rather than replacing Flybe's French network.
LHR to CDG is definitely Air France. Unless you meant regional France.
Personally I'll believe it when I see an Air France plane on the tarmac at SOU, particularly from a French regional destination. I'd say if it happens at all it'll most likely be a CDG connection rather than replacing Flybe's French network.
Personally I'll believe it when I see an Air France plane on the tarmac at SOU, particularly from a French regional destination. I'd say if it happens at all it'll most likely be a CDG connection rather than replacing Flybe's French network.
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Will be interesting to see if anything comes of this. Looking back at the past Air France did briefly put weekly summer flights to Lyon and Nantes on sale in 2012 from Southampton, although they never actually operated them. Even then I don't think they flew many/any regional French routes from other UK airports - Birmingham to Lyon maybe?
Of course they also served CDG then Orly for well over 20 years, and more again if you consider the codeshare with Flybe they had.
Of course they also served CDG then Orly for well over 20 years, and more again if you consider the codeshare with Flybe they had.
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I believe some of the regional France routes were pretty good for Flybe out of SOU, I'm thinking Bergerac (which operated year round) and to a lesser extent the likes of Nantes, Limoges, La Rochelle, Avignon. Are any of those Hop bases?
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Positive news for SOU if true and could see Paris, Nantes (Hop HQ) and Brive (Hop destination) being involved. AF are looking to scale down their domestic timetable so may wish to take advantage of some short haul international!
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Nantes might be the head office of HOP by Airfrance acquired via Règional CAE merger with Brit-air however their presence is rather diminished. Much of the international flying is done under the Transavia brand these day.
HOP retains a small presence at Renne and operates a reasonable range of AF flights from Bordeaux .
They also operate shuttle and seasonal flights from the many Breton, Loire, Charentes, and Aquitaine airfields in to Paris
Nantes pourrait être le siège social de HOP by Airfrance acquis via la fusion régionale CAE avec Brit-air mais leur présence est plutôt réduite. Une grande partie des vols internationaux se fait sous la marque Transavia ces jours-ci.
HOP conserve une petite présence à Renne et opère une gamme raisonnable de vols AF au départ de Bordeaux.
Ils opèrent également des navettes et des vols saisonniers depuis les nombreux aérodromes bretons, Loire, charentes et aquitain jusqu'à Paris.
HOP retains a small presence at Renne and operates a reasonable range of AF flights from Bordeaux .
They also operate shuttle and seasonal flights from the many Breton, Loire, Charentes, and Aquitaine airfields in to Paris
Nantes pourrait être le siège social de HOP by Airfrance acquis via la fusion régionale CAE avec Brit-air mais leur présence est plutôt réduite. Une grande partie des vols internationaux se fait sous la marque Transavia ces jours-ci.
HOP conserve une petite présence à Renne et opère une gamme raisonnable de vols AF au départ de Bordeaux.
Ils opèrent également des navettes et des vols saisonniers depuis les nombreux aérodromes bretons, Loire, charentes et aquitain jusqu'à Paris.
AF have not filed any schedules / slots for SOU for Summer 2021 either at SOU or at the French coordinated airports like CDG and NTE.
They did so a few years ago for a smattering of weekend regional French routes - I think it was 2017 but haven't done since.
Another carrier is clearly very interested in the SOU weekend leisure markets though.
They did so a few years ago for a smattering of weekend regional French routes - I think it was 2017 but haven't done since.
Another carrier is clearly very interested in the SOU weekend leisure markets though.
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More good news for runway performance?
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/commun...xhibition.page
It looks like the vacant tower block in Stoneham is due to be demolished within the next year (see above link). At 17 stories and not far south of the runway perhaps this could result in improved runway performance?
It looks like the vacant tower block in Stoneham is due to be demolished within the next year (see above link). At 17 stories and not far south of the runway perhaps this could result in improved runway performance?
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Under Civil Aviation Authority designations, the northernmost 150 metres of the extension would be classified as a ‘starter strip’, with the remaining 14 metres as a ‘runway extension’
Runway Measurement Current declared distance (m) Future declared distance (m)
02 TORA 1723 1745
02 TODA 1831 1805
02 ASDA 1723 1745
02 LDA 1650 1673
20 TORA 1650 1814
20 TODA 1805 1874
20 ASDA 1650 1814
20 LDA 1605 1605
Runway Measurement Current declared distance (m) Future declared distance (m)
02 TORA 1723 1745
02 TODA 1831 1805
02 ASDA 1723 1745
02 LDA 1650 1673
20 TORA 1650 1814
20 TODA 1805 1874
20 ASDA 1650 1814
20 LDA 1605 1605
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Under Civil Aviation Authority designations, the northernmost 150 metres of the extension would be classified as a ‘starter strip’, with the remaining 14 metres as a ‘runway extension’
Runway Measurement Current declared distance (m) Future declared distance (m)
02 TORA 1723 1745
02 TODA 1831 1805
02 ASDA 1723 1745
02 LDA 1650 1673
20 TORA 1650 1814
20 TODA 1805 1874
20 ASDA 1650 1814
20 LDA 1605 1605
Runway Measurement Current declared distance (m) Future declared distance (m)
02 TORA 1723 1745
02 TODA 1831 1805
02 ASDA 1723 1745
02 LDA 1650 1673
20 TORA 1650 1814
20 TODA 1805 1874
20 ASDA 1650 1814
20 LDA 1605 1605
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The TORA and ASDA length for both 02 and 20 are the same so a stopway is not declared for either direction. The most likely reason for 02 slight increase in TORA is runway end safety area (RESA) length overrun being adjusted slightly where the new pavement is being constructed. The runway 20 overrun RESA is unchanged. The reduction in TODA by 16m for runway 02 may be due to adjustments being made to the location of a couple of runway 20 elevated approach lights which will be slightly nearer to the runway 02 end resulting in the first obstacle being slightly closer.