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Old 23rd May 2019, 08:23
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Originally Posted by jensdad
I agree, Skipness. It's always nice to aim higher, but it pays to take a reality check every now and again.
Strange psychology here in Newcastle. Our football team hasn't won the league for 92 years but we seem to have delusions that should be a major European force. It creeps over into some folks' attitude to our local airport which, as I have said before several times, is punching well well above its weight. Maybe because we are (by relative English standards anyway) isolated. As Craig Bellamy said: they think they're a big club. And they are. In the North East.
It's ok, it's only 83 years since the other club just down the road won the league
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Old 23rd May 2019, 08:37
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Another way to gain new routes is by making Newcastle and the North East an attractive inward destination for tourists. The airport has already made a good start on this and more successful TV shows such as VERA and movies like HARRY POTTER...which are sold overseas, all help to market the area as a region to visit. A large number of inbound passengers would help a route such as New York work. Overseas business locating in the North East also brings incoming passengers. Attracting large foreign manufacturers to the area always brings a two way flow of extra passengers to and from the area. This happened when a large German manufacturer opened up in the area many years ago, unfortunately they subsequently closed the plant.....Lufthansa opened routes to service this need. Holding major events in the area also adds to the numbers, i.e. the recent Rugby matches, about 7,500 was the figure mentioned.
It would be interesting to know the percentage/amount of reverse flow passengers using the airport.
Port of Tyne is successfully attracting cruise ships starting and ending their voyages at overseas ports to make a call here. The passengers are offered a series of excursions around and about the area, a percentage of these will decide to return to explore the area further, probably arriving and departing by air for their visit.

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Old 23rd May 2019, 15:21
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TUI have now added SALZBURG ...1` WKLY on Saturdays and VERONA ....2 x WKLY on Wednesday and Saturdays to SUMMER 2020
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I would certainly be interested in Verona
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Old 23rd May 2019, 15:29
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Must just be late additions to the programme, haven't TUI run these for years?
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Old 23rd May 2019, 18:08
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TUI

SZG and VRN have been operating for years withTOM/TUI. Nothing new.
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Old 24th May 2019, 00:01
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Originally Posted by Jamesair
Another way to gain new routes is by making Newcastle and the North East an attractive inward destination for tourists. The airport has already made a good start on this and more successful TV shows such as VERA and movies like HARRY POTTER...which are sold overseas, all help to market the area as a region to visit. A large number of inbound passengers would help a route such as New York work. Overseas business locating in the North East also brings incoming passengers. Attracting large foreign manufacturers to the area always brings a two way flow of extra passengers to and from the area. This happened when a large German manufacturer opened up in the area many years ago, unfortunately they subsequently closed the plant.....Lufthansa opened routes to service this need. Holding major events in the area also adds to the numbers, i.e. the recent Rugby matches, about 7,500 was the figure mentioned.
It would be interesting to know the percentage/amount of reverse flow passengers using the airport.
Port of Tyne is successfully attracting cruise ships starting and ending their voyages at overseas ports to make a call here. The passengers are offered a series of excursions around and about the area, a percentage of these will decide to return to explore the area further, probably arriving and departing by air for their visit.
I agree with most of what you're saying, Jamesair, but which routes did Lufthansa open to service Siemens? (I'm assuming you're talking about them?). The point about reverse flow passengers is an interesting one. In the departure lounge last Friday, and in the arrivals hall on Monday, there was a preponderance of North East accents as there always is. It has been argued, with some justification but maybe a need for more nuance, that airports like Newcastle actually take money out of their regions. It surprises me that more tourists don't come here but I suppose we'd better be careful what we wish for.

P.S. 'Vera' is a risible piece of television though, bring back 'Spender'
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Old 24th May 2019, 05:05
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LH opened a weekly Munich via BHX on a CRJ iirc
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Old 24th May 2019, 12:15
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......which frankly would be no use to anyone nowadays
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Old 24th May 2019, 13:24
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Originally Posted by GrahamK
LH opened a weekly Munich via BHX on a CRJ iirc
Ah OK, I never noticed that Must have been short-lived?
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Old 24th May 2019, 15:34
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Ah OK, I never noticed that Must have been short-lived?
Yes , there was also an Augsburg Airways Dash 8 5 x weekly to Hamburg which lasted a couple of years iirc.

HLX seemed to do ok to HAJ, CGN and MUC back in the day
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Old 24th May 2019, 22:48
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Originally Posted by GrahamK
Yes , there was also an Augsburg Airways Dash 8 5 x weekly to Hamburg which lasted a couple of years iirc.

HLX seemed to do ok to HAJ, CGN and MUC back in the day
Yep, I remember the Dash 8 to Hamburg. I went to Hanover and back on HLX back in 2007 I think it was. Busy both ways, but that was just a one-off sample. Cologne/Bonn and Munich on HLX didn't stick around long.
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Old 27th May 2019, 12:18
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If the takeover of Newcastle United is true....that should should mean a few executive jets from the Gulf on match days
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Ehhh? Just like Manchester gets?
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Old 27th May 2019, 15:40
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You have to be optimistic...if you support regional airports (or football teams)
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This morning's flight due at 10.30am from Enfidha BJ8240 turned back after reaching 32,000 ft, diverted to Monastir Airport an hour after take-off.

(Flightradar24) https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...8240/#20ac5c71
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Old 28th May 2019, 08:26
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Originally Posted by VentureGo
This morning's flight due at 10.30am from Enfidha BJ8240 turned back after reaching 32,000 ft, diverted to Monastir Airport an hour after take-off.

(Flightradar24) https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...8240/#20ac5c71
Update: Originally operated by Airbus A320 TS-INR (presumably diverted due to tech issue) has been substituted at MIR for TS-INH and has just departed at 09.20 for NCL.
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Old 28th May 2019, 10:50
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Originally Posted by jensdad
Yep, I remember the Dash 8 to Hamburg. I went to Hanover and back on HLX back in 2007 I think it was. Busy both ways, but that was just a one-off sample. Cologne/Bonn and Munich on HLX didn't stick around long.
Cologne/Bonn and Munich was only a few months in 2005. Hanover ran for much longer but linked to British troops stationed in Germany.
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Slightly off topic but twitter rumours about private jets from the UAE due into NCL on friday , as someone praying for the removal of Mike Ashley does anyone know anymore on this ?
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Heard Sheikh Khaled's adviser was mistaken and though he was buying United, as in Manchester United.
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