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Old 27th Jan 2019, 00:10
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Looks like the airport are expanding the Burger King outlet into the Flying Hipo restaurant. Not sure if Flying Hippo will just have a smaller dining area, or the restaurant will be replaced all together. It was always quiet when I have been at the airport. It would be good if they got a chain restaurant in its place, Liverpool has a Frankie and Bennys which would go well there, or even better a Nando’s or Wagamma. Liverpool also have a Subway too! Removing one of the duplicate WHSmiths or Duty Free stores for a Subway or Pret would be popular, which also means more commission/revenue for the airport.
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 10:49
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Originally Posted by Ph1l1pncl
Removing one of the duplicate WHSmiths or Duty Free stores for a Subway or Pret would be popular, which also means more commission/revenue for the airport.
How do the maths work on that theory? The commision and revenue on the existing outlets could far outweigh a Subway
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 14:32
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I know Greggs looked into an airside unit but the maths doesn’t fit their model (which i assume means the running costs would make it difficult to use their existing pricing model which wouldn’t be a good move for their brand)
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 17:07
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Probably a good move for Burger King to take some of the flying hippos space, place is always dead. It also thought looks as if the Beer House Pub is going to be extended into the current Burger King searing area from one of the drawings.
As far as new outlets are concerned the SSP mafia hold the contract for food and drink airside so any new openings would more than likely have to fit in with them rather than just say Subway deciding that they wanted to open a store up there.
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 18:36
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Food for thought...but anything aviation wise happening?
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Old 28th Jan 2019, 00:09
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe

How do the maths work on that theory? The commision and revenue on the existing outlets could far outweigh a Subway
I just go with the theory that, you’ve already walked through a large Duty Free store and passed a large WHSmiths, if you want anything from those shops you would have bought it already. If you want a drink before your flight there is another WHSmith in the Pier. Every time I’ve walked past those units are pretty dead. The airport was voted the worst in the UK for food and beverage offering. I used Subway as an example because they are in Liverpool airport which is similar sized to Newcastle, Frankie and Bennys are in Liverpool and East Midlands, so they maybe part of the SSP brands. Hopefully the extended Burger King is a start to the redevelopment of the food and beverage offering.

Not much in the aviation front, it’s all pretty quiet. The BA flights are staying at the 32 per week schedule similar to the summer for winter 19.
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A friend has been left stranded by the cancelled LCY this morning. Apparently other pax are complaining that this has become a regular occurrence, and is worried as he has several flights booked with them including the return sector tomorrow night.

Does anybody have any stats on cancellations at all, is it true that it’s happening regularly?

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Old 28th Jan 2019, 08:14
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Originally Posted by Daily Dalaman Dave
A friend has been left stranded by the cancelled LCY this morning. Apparently other pax are complaining that this has become a regular occurrence, and is worried as he has several flights booked with them including the return sector tomorrow night.

Does anybody have any stats on cancellations at all, is it true that it’s happening regularly?

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I think thats the first canx of that particular flight. There have been a few delays - something that is quite common with both Eastern and London City. On the whole, I'd say it's going fairly well - better than I expected anyway!
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Old 28th Jan 2019, 08:44
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I agree - I don't recall any other cancellations.
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Old 28th Jan 2019, 13:54
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Originally Posted by Ph1l1pncl
....The airport was voted the worst in the UK for food and beverage offering.....
It's not just the main departure area that is a mess, the Aspire Business Lounge can be pretty dreadful as well. It's not really a "Business Lounge" in the true sense of the word, simply a place where the holidaying mass are now able to gather to imbibe themselves on free booze.
On an early morning in the holiday season it's packed with noisy IT punters well on their way to being "slaughtered". Apart from being rather unpleasant for those looking for peace & relaxation, then the catering is very poor & in reality one could expect better in one of the forecourt caff's.
I don't know if this is just embarrassingly a Geordie thing!, but conversely I have never experienced this in any of the many overseas lounges I have used, irrespective if located at "bucket & spade destinations" such as TFS, even the perennial Russians are no where near as much hassle...
Incidentally the Aspire + is little better, maybe the "mob control" is to an extent controlled, but still the same old food offering, & small concession to having the only "non artificial" lighting in whole place with a few windows looking out into a corridor.
These things could be controlled to an extent, by issuing drink tickets, as in American Airlines lounges in US, perhaps if they addressed same at NCL then the money saved on excessive alcohol consumption could enhance catering product.
Better still where possible use BA / One World lounge and at NCL, eliminate all the above problems in one go.
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Old 28th Jan 2019, 17:36
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I hate the lounge in Newcastle. Main reason for me is the lack of windows...feels like a dungeon!

Agree - doesn’t feel like a business lounge.
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Old 4th Feb 2019, 11:36
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No, it's not that good but it's 100 times better than the new Lounge 52 at AMS which is like a school canteen, far more people than it can handle, as many cafe type seats as lounge chairs and hardly any convenient power outlets.
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Don’t forget lounge 52 isn’t fully open yet - hopefully not as bad when it is.
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I'm with P330 on this..... I hate view-less lounges. When flying BA from Heathrow or Gatwick their lounges offer the best apron/runway views available. One of the best is Las Palmas...Gran Canaria, which also has an outside sitting/viewing area.
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Originally Posted by Jamesair
I'm with P330 on this..... I hate view-less lounges. When flying BA from Heathrow or Gatwick their lounges offer the best apron/runway views available. One of the best is Las Palmas...Gran Canaria, which also has an outside sitting/viewing area.
You should try the ANZ lounge at AKL superb views, catering etc, but also with sliding roof in one area, so sunshine as well. Anyhow getting back to relevance, then Aspire at NCL with or without punters, is more akin to a dungeon. In an earlier incarnation,does it not occupy the site of an earlier air side departure lounge ...albeit less chairs & you had to pay for your booze, why didn't it catch on............
Ref earlier comments re Lounge 52 at AMS, this sounds exactly like the KLM Crown Lounge, in every way, indeed I find it hard to believe one is not talking about the same space ?
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Worst of all, I have to use it again tomorrow

There must be lots of ways to get into business lounges these days everywhere including NCL and I have seen some very annoyed people getting turned away from Aspire.
And I still don't know why they ushered me into the Aspire+ part last time. I spent the whole time looking for someone to say, "do you realise who I am?" to.
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Old 4th Feb 2019, 23:57
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Ho hum, most of my post didn't arrive above:

The KLM Crown Lounge was not very good at all but it was better than the new one (just).
It's not obvious what is left to open at L52 but they won't retrospectively put in power points next to the comfy chairs or take out café seats and install more proper chairs.
If they though putting in cheap, basic seats to get more people in was a good idea in a business lounge they are very much mistaken.
If I'm in there for hours and want to watch a film on my laptop then I need power so that I can watch another one on the long haul flight as the inflight movies are usually (with KLM) American based serious films to slash your wrists by. All I want is an easy watching fluffy comedy.
However, spreading the meal over nearly 3 hours can stop the use of a laptop anyway. Glad I'm not a business man wanting to work.
Mind, the wifi in the lounge works well.

Worst of all, I have to use it again tomorrow *

There must be lots of ways to get into business lounges these days everywhere including NCL and I have seen some very annoyed people getting turned away from Aspire.
And I still don't know why they ushered me into the Aspire+ part last time. I spent the whole time looking for someone to say, "do you realise who I am?" to.
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Old 5th Feb 2019, 00:51
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Originally Posted by Jamesair
One of the best is Las Palmas...Gran Canaria, which also has an outside sitting/viewing area.
Is the outside sitting area at LPA pay-for-access now? I was there a few years ago and it was open access for anyone airside; great views over the airfield. Don't tell me the Spaniards are going down the British screw-every-cent-out-of-'em route?
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Last visit was 2 - 3 years ago.....I hope you are wrong about that.
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Must be a couple of years since I used it......hope it is still open access. Will be trying for a window seat at LHR T5 BA lounge on Sunday.
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