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Old 14th Sep 2018, 17:30
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August stats are now on the airport website.

A drop of 453 movements from Aug. 17 and an increase in pax numbers from 624,233 to 625,514 in Aug 18........main increase is in domestic pax.
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Old 14th Sep 2018, 18:40
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Aer lingus

with only 1 flight per day now this must be limiting what flights can be offered without a night stop coming back.

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Old 14th Sep 2018, 18:51
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With Ryanair to Dublin not on sale yet for 2019.....and British Airways messing big time with the Newcastle Schedule..any mileage in Aer Lingus stepping back in and increasing the Dublin to tap in to a vast USA market from the North East ?
In the first seven months of 2018, BA carried 288,788 on the LHR route, 10,000 more than the same period last year.

The mid morning EI DUB works quite well with their Transatlantic flights (well, did for me a couple of months ago ) Also, don't forget KLM
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Old 14th Sep 2018, 21:31
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Passenger stats are showing that growth is a bit sluggish compared to many other UK airports - less than 1% increase for both months. Still an increase though!
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Old 14th Sep 2018, 22:15
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No wonder ACE isn't on sale next summer if they can't fill it
Not surprised. Sitting for 4hrs+ with my knees under my chin in a soulless Ryanair cabin wouldn't be my kind of fun either.
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Old 14th Sep 2018, 22:52
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A very good performance when you consider the frequency cuts we have had this summer ....look at the drop in movements against last July
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Old 15th Sep 2018, 03:23
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It apears that the Cork Route has been cut from the end of September. Doesn’t seem to show for returning next summer either.
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Old 15th Sep 2018, 08:44
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Originally Posted by HH6702 View Post
No wonder ACE isn't on sale next summer if they can't fill it
Jet2, TCX and TUI also do one or two flights to ACE in addition to the two RYR a week.
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Old 15th Sep 2018, 17:58
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Troubled times ahead..no growth on schedules..the opposite really.. Also hanging on to to IT growth...no new airport infrastructure,and that is all before the dread of Brexit.

Going to be a hard few years ahead for the premier NE airport and to be honest all NE airports..
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Old 15th Sep 2018, 19:53
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The country catches a cold and the North East sneezes first...
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Old 15th Sep 2018, 21:04
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True ..unfortunately the whole area is always on the back foot.

But sometimes you just wish for a bit of flair and adventure in the planning?

Southside of the airport completely un developed..while other airports..have at least given it a go.
cant always rely on the the NE public flying to Alicante!
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Old 15th Sep 2018, 21:21
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Letís be honest NCL has been on a bit of a downward trend for a little while now. Failing to secure a permanent United service, the loss of SAS, Vueling and various frequency cuts with Aer Lingus, now Ryanair seem to be scaling back after the explosion of an expansion that seemed to happen all of a sudden. Is it all the airports fault? No but you canít help but think they arenít completely blameless with all this.
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Old 15th Sep 2018, 21:31
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Originally Posted by NCL-TRC View Post
Letís be honest NCL has been on a bit of a downward trend for a little while now.
Getting into semantics here, but a decrease in the rate of an upward trend does not equal a 'downward trend'. Passenger figures are up. Up by less than some other airports admittedly, but they are up. As I've said before, we're the third smallest city on Emirates' European network. We ain't doing bad.
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Old 16th Sep 2018, 05:36
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They seem to be pushing ahead with their Masterplan 2035. I wonder if there are the passengers to support it?
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Old 17th Sep 2018, 21:42
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It looks like LCO has went tech in ZTH causing a few knock on delays - currently 20 hour delay.

A321 operating MAH instead of the 320 with an 11 hour delay with TCVA coming in from MAN to operate that and LCN coming into to operate the DLM from STN which operated with a 2 hour delay.

Busy day for TCX ops!
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Old 17th Sep 2018, 22:49
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Ryanair summer 2019

Dublin, Faro, Tenerife, Lanzarote, Girona, Palma , Alicante, Malaga and polish destinations on sale. NO Madrid up to now !
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Old 17th Sep 2018, 22:58
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They seem to be pushing ahead with their Masterplan 2035. I wonder if there are the passengers to support it?
Newcastle seem to be under-performing substantially when compared to similarly sized UK airports over the past decade. Despite adding Dubai to the destination board the airport is still well behind peak levels of passenger numbers achieved over 10 years ago.The sales business development team would be out of a job in any other commercial operation. Domestic routes have seen significant decline, also services to Copenhagen,Oslo, Stavanger and Bergen no longer available in any kind of regular volume (Used to be operated by Daily Braathens (now Norwegian?!) Boeing 737 back then)
Newcastle Airport were forecasting 10million passengers by now and yet only achieved 5.3m last year. Bristol by comparison from a similar level in 2007 achieved 8.3m last year. Other regional airports have similarly grown since the depression of 2008.

I wonder if anyone can identify exactly where routes with volume number of passengers have been lost from those years (circa and before 2007 - before Emirates and LCC gains)

Route Development and Marketing teams at Airport should be brought to task on such a terrible under performance.
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Old 18th Sep 2018, 07:09
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Originally Posted by JonnyH View Post
It looks like LCO has went tech in ZTH causing a few knock on delays - currently 20 hour delay.

A321 operating MAH instead of the 320 with an 11 hour delay with TCVA coming in from MAN to operate that and LCN coming into to operate the DLM from STN which operated with a 2 hour delay.

Busy day for TCX ops!
The ZTH flight is now showing Delayed 21:45 thats around 37 Hour delay and is now Scheduled to be flown by G-TCDM
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Old 18th Sep 2018, 07:34
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Originally Posted by fl dutchman View Post
Ryanair summer 2019

Dublin, Faro, Tenerife, Lanzarote, Girona, Palma , Alicante, Malaga and polish destinations on sale. NO Madrid up to now !
No Warsaw either, frequency reductions on TFS and AGP it seems too. Not getting the required yields? How does the airport expect to get over 6m in 17 years time, never mind 9m?
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Old 18th Sep 2018, 07:53
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Not getting the required yields?
Why else would they reduce the frequency?

Route Development and Marketing teams at Airport should be brought to task on such a terrible under performance
Easy to blame the airport, but if people don't buy the flights available? The relatively poor economic performance of the region is probably more of a factor.

BTW, I thought Braathens were bought by SAS? CPH was never a Braathens flight and wasn't Oslo BA Connect? Stavanger is still operated by bmi Regional daily except Saturday (don't think Braathens had a Saturday service either)
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