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As you, and others have suggested, it's to discourage passengers from booking NCL-AMS in business.
The last thing the airline wants is to miss out on a £4k sale from someone flying NCL-AMS-JFK because they sold the last NCL-AMS business class seat for £200. Anyone looking to spend that kind of money might not be too happy about being dumped into economy on the NCL-AMS leg.
Far better to keep the business class relatively empty and try and win over some higher value connecting business passengers.
The last thing the airline wants is to miss out on a £4k sale from someone flying NCL-AMS-JFK because they sold the last NCL-AMS business class seat for £200. Anyone looking to spend that kind of money might not be too happy about being dumped into economy on the NCL-AMS leg.
Far better to keep the business class relatively empty and try and win over some higher value connecting business passengers.
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As you, and others have suggested, it's to discourage passengers from booking NCL-AMS in business.
The last thing the airline wants is to miss out on a £4k sale from someone flying NCL-AMS-JFK because they sold the last NCL-AMS business class seat for £200. Anyone looking to spend that kind of money might not be too happy about being dumped into economy on the NCL-AMS leg.
Far better to keep the business class relatively empty and try and win over some higher value connecting business passengers.
The last thing the airline wants is to miss out on a £4k sale from someone flying NCL-AMS-JFK because they sold the last NCL-AMS business class seat for £200. Anyone looking to spend that kind of money might not be too happy about being dumped into economy on the NCL-AMS leg.
Far better to keep the business class relatively empty and try and win over some higher value connecting business passengers.
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https://www.newcastleairport.com/passengerstatistics
April figures now published on Airport's website show -1896 down on April last year (407,599 [April '17] vs 405,703 [April 2018])
Domestic Passengers +2,818
Inclusive Tour Passengers +4,698
Scheduled International Passengers - 9,501
Other + 89
Not sure why Scheduled International passengers should be Down so much - Capacity hasn't seemed to drop significantly. Are loads down? or maybe figures from Airport are wrong?
April figures now published on Airport's website show -1896 down on April last year (407,599 [April '17] vs 405,703 [April 2018])
Domestic Passengers +2,818
Inclusive Tour Passengers +4,698
Scheduled International Passengers - 9,501
Other + 89
Not sure why Scheduled International passengers should be Down so much - Capacity hasn't seemed to drop significantly. Are loads down? or maybe figures from Airport are wrong?
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https://www.newcastleairport.com/passengerstatistics
April figures now published on Airport's website show -1896 down on April last year (407,599 [April '17] vs 405,703 [April 2018])
Domestic Passengers +2,818
Inclusive Tour Passengers +4,698
Scheduled International Passengers - 9,501
Other + 89
Not sure why Scheduled International passengers should be Down so much - Capacity hasn't seemed to drop significantly. Are loads down? or maybe figures from Airport are wrong?
April figures now published on Airport's website show -1896 down on April last year (407,599 [April '17] vs 405,703 [April 2018])
Domestic Passengers +2,818
Inclusive Tour Passengers +4,698
Scheduled International Passengers - 9,501
Other + 89
Not sure why Scheduled International passengers should be Down so much - Capacity hasn't seemed to drop significantly. Are loads down? or maybe figures from Airport are wrong?
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NCL doing pretty well.
Average delay in minutes, worst at the top.
Luton - 19.7 minutes
Gatwick - 18.9 minutes
Jersey - 18.7 minutes
Durham Tees Valley - 18.6 minutes
Birmingham - 18.2 minutes
Bristol - 17.6 minutes
Belfast International - 16.7 minutes
Manchester - 16.7 minutes
Stansted - 16.7 minutes
Aberdeen - 16.1 minutes
Edinburgh - 15.8 minutes
Cardiff - 15.7 minutes
Glasgow - 15.0 minutes
Doncaster Sheffield - 14.3 minutes
Liverpool - 14.0 minutes
London Southend - 13.5 minutes
Southampton - 13.5 minutes
East Midlands International - 13.3 minutes
Newcastle - 12.8 minutes
Bournemouth - 12.3 minutes
Exeter - 11.9 minutes
London City - 11.6 minutes
Belfast City - 11.3 minutes
Leeds Bradford - 11.3 minutes
Heathrow - 11.0 minutes
Average delay in minutes, worst at the top.
Luton - 19.7 minutes
Gatwick - 18.9 minutes
Jersey - 18.7 minutes
Durham Tees Valley - 18.6 minutes
Birmingham - 18.2 minutes
Bristol - 17.6 minutes
Belfast International - 16.7 minutes
Manchester - 16.7 minutes
Stansted - 16.7 minutes
Aberdeen - 16.1 minutes
Edinburgh - 15.8 minutes
Cardiff - 15.7 minutes
Glasgow - 15.0 minutes
Doncaster Sheffield - 14.3 minutes
Liverpool - 14.0 minutes
London Southend - 13.5 minutes
Southampton - 13.5 minutes
East Midlands International - 13.3 minutes
Newcastle - 12.8 minutes
Bournemouth - 12.3 minutes
Exeter - 11.9 minutes
London City - 11.6 minutes
Belfast City - 11.3 minutes
Leeds Bradford - 11.3 minutes
Heathrow - 11.0 minutes
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NCL-LHR
The schedules are being amended now!. It looks like the 12 noon ish flight to LHR is going and the second one up from LHR arriving about 11 ish are going each day.
I understand the noon flight to LHR to be one of the busiest of the day mainly for connections ??.
So approx Six hrs gap between flights to LHR. 9 am ish to about 3 pm! dont know exact times.
Also if you fly into LHR early morning and you cant make the 7.25 ish departure to NCL you have to wait to about 2 pm for the next one. Not good especially if its Longhaul inbound.
Many years since the service was down to 5 per day for an entire season.
They are using the slots to increase frequency from LHR to other places in Europe and Worldwide . I think domestics LHR-ABZ is also affected. But not LHR-MAN, EDI or GLA.
So thats a reduction on the 2 most busy routes out of NCL----------LHR and AMS!
The schedules are being amended now!. It looks like the 12 noon ish flight to LHR is going and the second one up from LHR arriving about 11 ish are going each day.
I understand the noon flight to LHR to be one of the busiest of the day mainly for connections ??.
So approx Six hrs gap between flights to LHR. 9 am ish to about 3 pm! dont know exact times.
Also if you fly into LHR early morning and you cant make the 7.25 ish departure to NCL you have to wait to about 2 pm for the next one. Not good especially if its Longhaul inbound.
Many years since the service was down to 5 per day for an entire season.
They are using the slots to increase frequency from LHR to other places in Europe and Worldwide . I think domestics LHR-ABZ is also affected. But not LHR-MAN, EDI or GLA.
So thats a reduction on the 2 most busy routes out of NCL----------LHR and AMS!
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Well with any luck it'll just prop up other airlines out of NCL, like EK in particular. AF could do with a little propping as well I think. With this, and the loss of viable connections through DUB with EI, it would seem like a prime opportunity for LH to jump in with a FRA service, most likely on BM metal. Surely we could fill 98 seats PDEW on a E145, x13 weekly, expecially since we're losing something in the order of 450 PDEW to LHR/AMS
We shall see..
We shall see..
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Well with any luck it'll just prop up other airlines out of NCL, like EK in particular. AF could do with a little propping as well I think. With this, and the loss of viable connections through DUB with EI, it would seem like a prime opportunity for LH to jump in with a FRA service, most likely on BM metal. Surely we could fill 98 seats PDEW on a E145, x13 weekly, expecially since we're losing something in the order of 450 PDEW to LHR/AMS
We shall see..
We shall see..
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ABZ has a drop, GLA has only lost 2 services per week (with some A319's replaced by A320's). Capacity change likely to be negligable. Lots of these off peak 'shuttles' run far from full. People do look for frequency however.
Most of the domestic 763 ops will be going too (they definitely rarely ran full).
Most of the domestic 763 ops will be going too (they definitely rarely ran full).
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NCL-LHR
The schedules are being amended now!. It looks like the 12 noon ish flight to LHR is going and the second one up from LHR arriving about 11 ish are going each day.
I understand the noon flight to LHR to be one of the busiest of the day mainly for connections ??.
So approx Six hrs gap between flights to LHR. 9 am ish to about 3 pm! dont know exact times.
Also if you fly into LHR early morning and you cant make the 7.25 ish departure to NCL you have to wait to about 2 pm for the next one. Not good especially if its Longhaul inbound.
Many years since the service was down to 5 per day for an entire season.
They are using the slots to increase frequency from LHR to other places in Europe and Worldwide . I think domestics LHR-ABZ is also affected. But not LHR-MAN, EDI or GLA.
So thats a reduction on the 2 most busy routes out of NCL----------LHR and AMS!
The schedules are being amended now!. It looks like the 12 noon ish flight to LHR is going and the second one up from LHR arriving about 11 ish are going each day.
I understand the noon flight to LHR to be one of the busiest of the day mainly for connections ??.
So approx Six hrs gap between flights to LHR. 9 am ish to about 3 pm! dont know exact times.
Also if you fly into LHR early morning and you cant make the 7.25 ish departure to NCL you have to wait to about 2 pm for the next one. Not good especially if its Longhaul inbound.
Many years since the service was down to 5 per day for an entire season.
They are using the slots to increase frequency from LHR to other places in Europe and Worldwide . I think domestics LHR-ABZ is also affected. But not LHR-MAN, EDI or GLA.
So thats a reduction on the 2 most busy routes out of NCL----------LHR and AMS!
BA1321 - 7.55
BA1325 - 9.35
BA1327- 12:05
BA1335 - 17:30
BA1337 - 19:35
The LHR to NCL timings are:
07:35
09:45
15:05
17:30
19:45
The flights from Newcastle are fairly spaced out, from Heathrow there is a 5 hour gap which isn’t ideal.
Is KLM increasing to 5 a day again in the summer or has it gone to 4 per day year round?
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Thanks Ph1l1pncl.
Thanks. Yes I got the new times wrong, the noon flight from NCL and the 9.45 from LHR are obviously still flying thankfully. I looked at it the wrong way round. However 5 hrs between flights is not good.
Thanks Ph1l1pncl.
Thanks. Yes I got the new times wrong, the noon flight from NCL and the 9.45 from LHR are obviously still flying thankfully. I looked at it the wrong way round. However 5 hrs between flights is not good.