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Old 4th Jan 2018, 05:56
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A319 & A321 last night
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Old 4th Jan 2018, 10:44
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BA LHR

Timing of the second night-stopper will be governed as much by the crew hours as LHR slots. They need 12 hours rest after a 2100 arrival before they report for a 1200 flight.
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Old 7th Jan 2018, 02:30
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It’s slot sitting for the cancelled Doha rotations due to the 787 issues the Doha 777 aircraft has been reallocated to 787 Routes. It’s due to finish In the middle of January as the Doha route returns. BA have never nightstopped in Leeds so they wouldn’t add a nightsopper as they won’t have a hotel contract for the crew, at Newcastle the crew can be accommodated at the current crew hotel.
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Old 7th Jan 2018, 13:58
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I don't think that not having a hotel contract at Leeds is the real reason for British Airways not nightstopping at Leeds that situation could very easily be overcome if British Airways ever decided to overnight as any decent local hotel would be after that business.

When you quote that 'British Airways have never night stopped at Leeds they surely did when they had a base at the airport in the 1970's with a nightstopper from LHR.
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Old 7th Jan 2018, 19:32
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Think you will find there was a BA crew base there until March ‘80 when the route ceased being operated by BA and was taken over by British Midland so therefore no London based crew nightstopping.
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Old 7th Jan 2018, 22:40
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Can anyone confirm that Jet2 will be phasing out the 737 300 from NCL, S18? And thus reverting to an all 737 800 base?

Classics are getting rarer by the day and if they're to be gone from NCL in the next few months I'll definitely consider trying to get a cheap ride on them
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Old 7th Jan 2018, 23:23
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I'll definitely consider trying to get a cheap ride on them
Good heavens, whatever for.
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Old 7th Jan 2018, 23:34
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I meant since they re started the Leeds flights they have never nightstopped on those services. BA could well retime the flights which could require a night stopping service and a crew hotel contract. But, this is known months in advance, the extra Newcastle rotataion was very last minute due to the 787 issues and BA are not going to sauce a contract and go through an RFP process for an extra flight for 6 weeks, that wouldn’t make any financial sense.
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Old 8th Jan 2018, 05:34
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Originally Posted by EK77WNCL View Post
Can anyone confirm that Jet2 will be phasing out the 737 300 from NCL, S18? And thus reverting to an all 737 800 base?

Classics are getting rarer by the day and if they're to be gone from NCL in the next few months I'll definitely consider trying to get a cheap ride on them
No they are scheduled in this summer
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Old 8th Jan 2018, 08:30
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SKG will be on the 300's
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Old 8th Jan 2018, 13:53
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I don't think all of them will go, but at 32+ years, all the careful use and regular maintenance can't make them viable forever. Their first lot of deliveries of new 738's were for expansion (16 i believe), these next ones, will be used for phasing out/expansion.

Unless they announce a fresh order, i don't believe they'll disappear completely
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Old 11th Jan 2018, 10:06
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December 2017 stats now on airport website.

Movements... 2976 (3772 Dec. '16)

Total pax .....302,976 (305,842 Dec. '16)

https://www.newcastleairport.com/passengerstatistics

Shows a decline in the trend which had built up throughout the year.

Wonder if these figures from NIA's website are accurate, and if so, why the change from upward trend increasing year on year by month?
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Old 11th Jan 2018, 10:51
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Less Dublin, no Gdansk?
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Old 11th Jan 2018, 15:48
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So how do these stats work - 506 mail/freight movements looks "odd", so must include all flights that carry any mail or freight (or just be plain wrong). Are these flights then excluded from the international/domestic scheduled figures??
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Old 11th Jan 2018, 17:29
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Be interesting to see CAA figures when out for breakdown by routes.
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Old 11th Jan 2018, 18:20
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Dissapointing to see the decline in scheduled routes but to me, the airport markets itself primarily to locals so basically they are subconsciously putting the scheduled carriers off and potentially half their market (inbound pax). Let me explain...

Just look at the airports strapline - ‘YOUR AIRPORT’ which basically communicates that they are serving geordies on their bucket and spade package tours! Unbelievable to me as they are not marketing to half their market which surely must be inbound passengers, whether tourists or business. Whilst I fully understand that we are a regional airport and most passengers are Geordie tourists, surely the airport have to have bigger ambition to attract the international carriers and inbound passengers.

By now, we should be able to sustain Lufthansa to MUC and FRA and a daily service to Milan. Forget about Jet2 on these routes - I will explain why later.

Edinburgh sets a great example of how to brand as an international gateway. Their strapline alone says it all - ‘Where Scotland Meets the World’. Not saying a new strap-line will solve all the problems but it’s the basics of marketing and no I am not a marketeer - just a local businessman who wants to see the airport prosper instead of re-announcing the same old routes. Only yesterday Antalya was announced in the Chronicle!

It’s a bit like comparing Jet 2 with EasyJet or indeed Ryanair. Whilst Jet2 have to be commended for their growth and success, their whole branding is quite cheesy and, dare I say, amateur, targeting family bucket and spade tourists from the UK. This works well for them but no comparison to Easyjet who market themselves as a more sophisticated offering to both inbound and outbound markets, like the flag carriers. Newcastle needs a more sophisticated marketing proposal to open itself up to inbound passengers from overseas. It’s staring at them in the face!

On another note, it took over two hours from landing to leaving the terminal on my last EK arrival on a quiet winters day. Departing on the 6pm to GVA a few weeks ago, I was also surprised to see nearly every airside shop and restaurant was closed before 5pm. Surely as part of the lease, they should be made to stay open till say 30 minutes before the last departure? Again, this doesnt exactly set the best example of an international airport that is going places.
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Old 11th Jan 2018, 18:37
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On another note, it took over two hours from landing to leaving the terminal on my last EK arrival on a quiet winters day. Departing on the 6pm to GVA a few weeks ago, I was also surprised to see nearly every airside shop and restaurant was closed before 5pm. Surely as part of the lease, they should be made to stay open till say 30 minutes before the last departure? Again, this doesnt exactly set the best example of an international airport that is going places.
I got in last night on the 9.30pm AF flight and noticed the hall was deserted and hard luck on anyone who had a problem with missing luggage.
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Old 11th Jan 2018, 19:39
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A valid point about marketing the airport , although they do say that the campaign will be seen in southern Scotland, Cumbria and down to Yorkshire.

I was surprised that in an article about a further campaign jointly with Visit Britain (which is what they should be doing) to attract German tourists to visit the North East and see the Great Exhibition of the North etc, they are targeting the Berlin route with no mention of the six times weekly Dusseldorf service, which I would have thought was an essential ingredient for any inbound German campaign.
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Old 11th Jan 2018, 20:59
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https://www.newcastleairport.com/art...in-partnership

VisitBritain, Newcastle Airport and NewcastleGateshead Initiative have announced a partnership to promote the North East of England to overseas visitors.
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Old 11th Jan 2018, 22:10
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In connection with marketing I can’t decide if the problems being experienced by the train companies from the North East to London are helpful to the Airport and should be exploited or not.

It’s well published that Virgin/Stagecoach are pulling out of the east coast franchise 2 years early. They used to advertise it as much more convenient than flying. GNER previously went bust while running the line.

Can’t the airport attract another operator to a London airport (STN or LGW) to
or are they too busy on the sun routes mentioned above or can no one make any money taking people from the NE to the capital????
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