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Old 20th Aug 2020, 11:39
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EK I am more worried about the fact EDI starts 1st October 1xday and NCL is just cancelled until end of November but unlike other destinations has no start date! Just glad my DXB commute not needed soon! Joining the likes of Highwideandugly in retirement! :-)
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 20:19
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I suspect the EK EDI will get pushed back.
Looks like LH to Munich not returning until March 2021
Eurowings to DUS confirmed for Sept restart
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 23:37
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I suspect the EK EDI will get pushed back.
Ref EK to NCL, then how are EK managing their other routes, particularly those with A380's ?
Is there not a potential situation where many A380 premium routes are currently experiencing low demand , requiring a switch to 773's? If so then presumably a shortage of equipment elsewhere on the network ?
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Old 21st Aug 2020, 00:21
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Ref earlier comment, then I note EZY has now cleared out all their European destinations & GVA is no more....
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Old 21st Aug 2020, 09:15
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771...As someone who works here believe me when I say no shortage of 77W's!!!
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 09:38
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TUI cutting flights for next year. SSH at least is gone
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 10:43
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Originally Posted by GrahamK View Post
TUI cutting flights for next year. SSH at least is gone

cant be any surprises here. At least it won’t be Newcastle specific.

I don’t know anyone going abroad this year or even saying they’ll go next year.

while easyJet has obviously binned Geneva (along with everything else) I wonder what the prospects for any type of ski season is this winter?
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 12:00
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Originally Posted by GBYAJ View Post
I don’t know anyone going abroad this year or even saying they’ll go next year.
With TUI announcing that bookings are up 145% for next summer, it seems that there's plenty of demand for holidays. I don't know anyone who isn't planning to go away on holiday next year.
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 12:19
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What was that 145% compared to? I would have thought any plans for next year will be a bit speculative at the monent.
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 12:20
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I would tend to agree. 145% increase on diddly squat really at the minute
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 15:13
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145% up on the same point last year. A significant portion of that will be re-bookings, but it's a clear sign the appetite for package holidays is there. Jet2 haven't released numbers, as far as I know, but I'd be surprised if the picture was much different to TUI's.
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 15:38
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i wonder if TUI will still base 4 aircraft for next summer. They added an aircraft to help cover TCX.

I can see for next year TUI back to 3 aircraft and I can see Jet2 even reducing the flight offering from ncl also and moving a aircraft to another base so they aren’t leasing from Titan next year.

just my thoughts
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 16:55
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Originally Posted by inOban View Post
Much of the freight out of Glasgow is, or was, salmon and shellfish.
Some of it is but certainly not ‘much of it’
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 17:17
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Originally Posted by GrahamK View Post
TUI cutting flights for next year. SSH at least is gone
SSH dropped everywhere but LGW MAN BHX
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 20:21
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
What was that 145% compared to? I would have thought any plans for next year will be a bit speculative at the monent.
Agreed. If demand was so high, they wouldn’t be cutting so many flights and potentially even closing bases from the looks of the timetable.
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 21:11
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
What was that 145% compared to? I would have thought any plans for next year will be a bit speculative at the monent.
Compared to the forward bookings at the same time a year earlier. But as has been said skewed a lot by people moving their holidays from s20 to s21. The anticipation is moving forward, people are going to book more on the fly much closer to dep date rather than months in advance.
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 21:17
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Originally Posted by ROC10 View Post
Agreed. If demand was so high, they wouldn’t be cutting so many flights and potentially even closing bases from the looks of the timetable.
We are just at the start of a deep recession, which equals less money for holidays. Who knows what the coming years will bring. It looks to me as they are being cautious for now but may well add in extra routes/frequencies if demand increases.

The UK fleet is largely staying around the same size but i doubt there'll be any wet leases for the coming year or 2, barring a couple of sunwing a/c at a push.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 09:48
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The UK fleet is largely staying around the same size but i doubt there'll be any wet leases for the coming year or 2, barring a couple of sunwing a/c at a push.

Isn't the 737 max supposed to be in the fleet for next year? I would imagine that they might not need the Sunwing aircraft at all.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 11:05
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Isn't the 737 max supposed to be in the fleet for next year? I would imagine that they might not need the Sunwing aircraft at all.
Yes it is sometime around spring, and some more to be delivered over the winter too, there are also some a/c EOL and group transfers so hard to pin down fleet numbers. I guess it will be a while before the fleet picture becomes clearer.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 17:11
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Recession or not, don’t write off strong pent up demand. There is very strong evidence that in the financial crash of the late 00’s, people were ring fencing money for holidays.

There may be cuts to how much they will splash out, and a pragmatic review of where they go along with some cut back on those very discretionary weekend breaks and stag do’s etc but ultimately, the traditional holiday destinations in the Med and Canaries will be booming next summer, Covid permitting.
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