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Old 31st Mar 2020, 01:35
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It’s a shame that Easyjet are moving their aircraft from Newcastle down to Southend - in times like these any revenue available should be utilised. Unfortunately I fear that the charges Newcastle want are too much for Easyjet and they got a much better deal at Southend. If the airport could be filled with parked aircraft then it will at least keep getting some revenue.

Even the severe closure timings for the airfield, it’s shorter than many other airports. That’s probably one of the reasons why BA pulled flights to Newcastle while keeping at least one a day to MAN, GLA, EDI, ABZ, BHD. I’m surprised the airport can close like that, I thought as co-opted military field it would have to stay open for the military to use if they wanted too.

I certainly fear that many routes may not come back to Newcastle even after this is all over.
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Old 31st Mar 2020, 06:41
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Unfortunately I fear that the charges Newcastle want are too much for Easyjet and they got a much better deal at Southend. If the airport could be filled with parked aircraft then it will at least keep getting some revenue.
Given that TUI have moved a/c in, and that EZY's EDI and GLA a/c moved to SEN on the same day, as well as BFS a/c moving to LPL, I expect that this is more to do with concentrating the a/c for engineering purposes than due to storage costs.

That’s probably one of the reasons why BA pulled flights
A bit chicken and egg - which came first? Suspect that it is more likely that the airfield opening times have been fixed around the flights that wanted to operate.

I’m surprised the airport can close like that, I thought as co-opted military field it would have to stay open for the military to use if they wanted too.
Still available PPR, so I'm sure it can be made available when required.

I certainly fear that many routes may not come back to Newcastle even after this is all over.
Well, London sneezes and the North-East catches a cold. NCL is one of the few airports in the UK which aren't yet back to 2007 levels. This will be more about the relative economic performance of the regions, though rather than anything the airport does in this crisis.





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Old 31st Mar 2020, 09:10
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Originally Posted by Ph1l1pncl View Post
Thatís probably one of the reasons why BA pulled flights to Newcastle while keeping at least one a day to MAN, GLA, EDI, ABZ, BHD.
BA are suspending all domestic flights from next week, so I wouldn't read too much in to it
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Old 31st Mar 2020, 11:32
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BA are suspending all domestic flights from next week, so I wouldn't read too much in to it
Where are you picking that up from? Have seen the suspension of Gatwick operations but not that all domestics are stopping?
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Old 31st Mar 2020, 14:41
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Originally Posted by Ph1l1pncl View Post

Even the severe closure timings for the airfield, itís shorter than many other airports. Thatís probably one of the reasons why BA pulled flights to Newcastle while keeping at least one a day to MAN, GLA, EDI, ABZ, BHD. Iím surprised the airport can close like that, I thought as co-opted military field it would have to stay open for the military to use if they wanted too.

I certainly fear that many routes may not come back to Newcastle even after this is all over.
BA were only advised on Friday morning by the airports management of the intention to restrict the hours of operation after the weekend.

Of the 25 flights scheduled to operate to LHR over the next 14 days, there were only 3 that would have been able to operate.

With only couple of days before the new restrictions BA decided to cancel its flights as the only way Of making the restriction daily would involve having to make changes to more than one other route. BA have now suspended the route until early May
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Old 31st Mar 2020, 16:29
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Think the management would have taken any necessary measures to help the nation ! and also supplement airport income?

At least Teesside still operating almost normally..i.e no schedules but still open?
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Old 31st Mar 2020, 18:57
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Originally Posted by BAladdy View Post
BA were only advised on Friday morning by the airports management of the intention to restrict the hours of operation after the weekend.

Of the 25 flights scheduled to operate to LHR over the next 14 days, there were only 3 that would have been able to operate.

With only couple of days before the new restrictions BA decided to cancel its flights as the only way Of making the restriction daily would involve having to make changes to more than one other route. BA have now suspended the route until early May
I'm not remotely party to any info on the relationship between BA and NCL but I've said it here before: Whether it's the airport's advertising that you can fly to destination X for £x via MUC when BA can get you there via LHR for £x-20; or their assertion when EK started that you can 'now' fly one-stop to e.g. Mauritius when BA had been doing it for about 30 years, NCL just don't appear to value BA as much as they should. I could of course be entirely wrong but that's what it looks like from where I'm sitting.
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Old 31st Mar 2020, 19:05
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NCL just don't appear to value BA as much as they should.
Or vice versa? How many routes did BA use to have out of NCL? Lets be honest, both companies will be doing what's in their own best interests - no sentiment in it.
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Old 8th Apr 2020, 17:47
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Don't know whether this has been mentioned on here but looking at the Emirates website they are now selling flights for the 01 June so a month earlier
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Old 8th Apr 2020, 22:31
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LHR suspension extended to 1st June.
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Old 8th Apr 2020, 22:55
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BAladdy NCL-LHR. Is that because NCL are not able to handle these flights under the current circumstances. It seems that LHR domestics continue to run from other UK airports?
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Old 9th Apr 2020, 08:08
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Hub routes as it stands

Air France as it stands look to be resuming 5th May, 3 x daily
KLM mostly 4/5 x weekly through April. Nothing in May? Normal 4 x daily service resume 2nd June
Emirates Daily 1st June
Lufthansa 6 x weekly Munich from 4th May
Eurowings 4 x weekly Dusseldorf from 1st May
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Old 9th Apr 2020, 10:33
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Originally Posted by GrahamK View Post
Hub routes as it stands

Air France as it stands look to be resuming 5th May, 3 x daily
KLM mostly 4/5 x weekly through April. Nothing in May? Normal 4 x daily service resume 2nd June
Emirates Daily 1st June
Lufthansa 6 x weekly Munich from 4th May
Eurowings 4 x weekly Dusseldorf from 1st May
All pure speculation on the airlines' behalf. You only have to ready what's going on within the Lufthansa group at the moment to realise that some of their routes (including, but by no means exclusively NCL in UK) may never restart. With the current state of covid-19 in France it seems to me very unlikely that AF will restart as early as May either. And of course aside of the situation in other countries with the UK lamentable testing performance to date, and still no reliable antibody test, nor an understanding of how long immunity from reinfection may last the UK may find itself out in the cold long after other countries (Germany for example) has got their outbreak under control.
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Old 10th Apr 2020, 17:13
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The March 2020 statistics are now on the airport website....does not make for pleasant reading.

Movements.......1335 (2875)
Pax.............133,013 (341,115)
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Old 10th Apr 2020, 17:16
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The March 2020 statistics are now on the airport website....does not make for pleasant reading.
Wait till you see April's...
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Old 10th Apr 2020, 18:28
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No shi....?
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Old 10th Apr 2020, 21:43
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I doubt the NCL figures will be any better or worse than the vast majority of UK airports. The industry is in the midst of something which surpasses the economic (and probably human) effects of 9/11, both Gulf Wars and SARS all rolled into one. If you canít contend with every airport reporting shocking passenger figures for several months, itís time to check out of this bulletin board.
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Old 11th Apr 2020, 01:52
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Not even worth mentioning as every UK and Worldwide airport is having the same issue.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 10:27
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Don't know whether this has been mentioned on here but looking at the Emirates website they are now selling flights for the 01 June so a month earlier

been changed back to July 1st this morning
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 11:05
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Originally Posted by HH6702 View Post
been changed back to July 1st this morning
August 1st
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