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It looks as if they may leave a couple of dormant 146s at SEN but it's a base closure in most senses of the word. Stobart seem to be experts at losing business.
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Don't Jota have engineering at SEN? Also, thought there was a restriction on 'airline' operations out of Biggin? or is the Jota work out of SEN mainly positioning elsewhere?
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Biggin Hill opening hours
06:30-23:00 Monday to Friday
08:00-22:00 Weekends and holidays
ILS at one end only
Less hours and more diversions. Maybe Stobart thought they would never go? Does Jota ever fly passengers from the main terminal at SEN, which is now only open 4 days a week?
06:30-23:00 Monday to Friday
08:00-22:00 Weekends and holidays
ILS at one end only
Less hours and more diversions. Maybe Stobart thought they would never go? Does Jota ever fly passengers from the main terminal at SEN, which is now only open 4 days a week?
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Nearly all their work involves positioning away from SEN, be it pax or freight. They have operated a few charters from the terminal over the years but not many. They do have their maintenance facility at SEN and I guess that will remain there.
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Jota have also recently moved their operations centre a few miles away from the airport to Hockley.
I think talk of a return to the tumbleweed days is premature. I think Stobart have a cunning plan. Making room for a new HQ and mega base for Flybe.....
I think talk of a return to the tumbleweed days is premature. I think Stobart have a cunning plan. Making room for a new HQ and mega base for Flybe.....
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With due respect to the airports current business plan I doubt Jota moving is going to impact greatly! If that was plane B then they really are in trouble just like most other airports?
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Interesting development. Just one example regarding 24 hr operations. G-JOTR flew back to Manchester late on Saturday evening from Newcastle with the Manchester United team and offials. It then departed for Southend arriving just after 2am on Sunday. This will not be possible if operations move to Biggin, so it would necessitate a night stop with HOTAC etc and added expense which the charterer would have to pay for.
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Interesting development. Just one example regarding 24 hr operations. G-JOTR flew back to Manchester late on Saturday evening from Newcastle with the Manchester United team and offials. It then departed for Southend arriving just after 2am on Sunday. This will not be possible if operations move to Biggin, so it would necessitate a night stop with HOTAC etc and added expense which the charterer would have to pay for.
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Can’t find the report now but I did read that Southend’s FBO was now operating with 8am to 4pm opening hours and outside those hours it was PPR. I assume PPR means an extra charge if Stobart agrees to keep the inglenook fire roaring into the early evening.
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Someone at SEN has woken up to other means of generating income - even if only in tiny amounts!
"London Southend Airport is offering five or more visual touch and go circuits for £5. The offer is applicable to aircraft with MTOW of 1.4T and below. PPR is required via Southend ATC and bookings can only be made a maximum of 24 hours in advance for non-based aircraft. Bookings are limited and will be made on a first come first served basis.5 or more touch and go's must be completed to qualify for the deal. Landing for parking will entail further fees."
"London Southend Airport is offering five or more visual touch and go circuits for £5. The offer is applicable to aircraft with MTOW of 1.4T and below. PPR is required via Southend ATC and bookings can only be made a maximum of 24 hours in advance for non-based aircraft. Bookings are limited and will be made on a first come first served basis.5 or more touch and go's must be completed to qualify for the deal. Landing for parking will entail further fees."
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Other means of generating income...
Raised in a public comments section on issues enveloping SEN published locally an interesting line from a resident states that it is their understanding the Council has given the airport tax payers money.
Unconfirmed & unproven as yet of course but perhaps draws the conclusion local posters on here are possibly funding their local airport too.
Raised in a public comments section on issues enveloping SEN published locally an interesting line from a resident states that it is their understanding the Council has given the airport tax payers money.
Unconfirmed & unproven as yet of course but perhaps draws the conclusion local posters on here are possibly funding their local airport too.
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Other means of generating income...
Raised in a public comments section on issues enveloping SEN published locally an interesting line from a resident states that it is their understanding the Council has given the airport tax payers money.
Unconfirmed & unproven as yet of course but perhaps draws the conclusion local posters on here are possibly funding their local airport too.
Raised in a public comments section on issues enveloping SEN published locally an interesting line from a resident states that it is their understanding the Council has given the airport tax payers money.
Unconfirmed & unproven as yet of course but perhaps draws the conclusion local posters on here are possibly funding their local airport too.
Meanwhile I found this bit of the Notam referring to the Southend FPO opening hours.
Q) EGTT/QFAXX/IV/NBO /A /000/999/5134N00042E
A) EGMC
B) 20/10/03 14:00 C) 20/11/03 17:00
E) THE STOBART JET CENTRE IS OPEN AND ACCEPTING FLIGHTS. THE OPERATIONS OFFICE WILL BE ACCEPTING HANDLING REQUESTS DAILY BETWEEN 0800 AND 1600UTC, FOR ANY HANDLING REQUESTS OUTSIDE OF THESE HOURS PLEASE CONTACT OPS(A)STOBARTJETCENTRE.COM OR CALL +44 (0)1702 538 600 WITHIN THE OPERATING OPENING TIMES FOR PRIOR APPROVAL AND PPR.
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😂😂😂, Flybe would be starting back up with a much smaller fleet and route map and why would they chose to go into SEN? Pax numbers out of SEN on flybe flights were poor! 20 pax on a flight would be a busy flight for them, the only reason Flybe was operating out of SEN was because Stobart Air operated the flights.
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😂😂😂, Flybe would be starting back up with a much smaller fleet and route map and why would they chose to go into SEN? Pax numbers out of SEN on flybe flights were poor! 20 pax on a flight would be a busy flight for them, the only reason Flybe was operating out of SEN was because Stobart Air operated the flights.
Or would you like to back up your 20 pax on a flight would be busy for them statement? But don’t be selective. Across all routes please and over a reasonable period of time.
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