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Theres only 3 flights today... Stobart needs to attract more flight quickly and the governments needs to relax quarantine, its devastating the airport
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If FR jiggled their Southend timetable could they not operate with one aircraft or is Monday Ryanair’s departure low point? Two departures 5 minutes apart then a 6 hour gap waiting for the first of the returning aircraft. Staffing costs for Stobart must be horrendous.
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Is there a particular reason for Widerøe starting up to SEN ie large corporate clients with offices in both regions? Only asking as I cannot see these being financially viable as pure leisure routes, even if Bergen might be a hub for Scandinavia!
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I do believe Ryanair will be dropping down to 1 plane for winter schedule. That’ll mean only 1 airplane is based in Southend... as Wideroe and Wizz don’t have planes based at SEN
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From that they have added Bergen, likely to be aimed more for British leisure pax but will also work for inbound. They are also flying to Bergen from LGW and LCY, I assume to take advantage of Norwegian’s probable exit from the route.
Other than that Essex has long been the favoured entry point for Scandinavian routes and airlines, now SEN is grabbing some of the action although I believe Wideroe flew there way back when. They have also been in and out of STN.
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The original association comes from the Kristiansand route which shifted across from STN but for obvious reasons didn’t start on time and is still postponed. So you’d assume SEN is cheaper for them, the pax mix is likely to be almost 100% inbound.
From that they have added Bergen, likely to be aimed more for British leisure pax but will also work for inbound. They are also flying to Bergen from LGW and LCY, I assume to take advantage of Norwegian’s probable exit from the route.
Other than that Essex has long been the favoured entry point for Scandinavian routes and airlines, now SEN is grabbing some of the action although I believe Wideroe flew there way back when. They have also been in and out of STN.
From that they have added Bergen, likely to be aimed more for British leisure pax but will also work for inbound. They are also flying to Bergen from LGW and LCY, I assume to take advantage of Norwegian’s probable exit from the route.
Other than that Essex has long been the favoured entry point for Scandinavian routes and airlines, now SEN is grabbing some of the action although I believe Wideroe flew there way back when. They have also been in and out of STN.
Wideroe is one the oldest European airlines having been established in 1934. Their DC-3s first appeared at SEN in 1962 flying passenger and freight charters so it's good to see them back. I had hoped to fly with them this summer but whether I'll get the chance next year (I'm definitely not flying at all this year) remains to be seen. The fact that they applied for slots at both LCY and LGW isn't exactly a confidence booster as they obviously wouldn't operate to three LON airports, or probably even two.
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ATC and the last Easyjet flight saying their goodbyes. A very sad time for the staff and supporters here.
report here.
https://www.essexlive.news/news/esse...flight-4474435
report here.
https://www.essexlive.news/news/esse...flight-4474435
Wideroe's Kristiansand service seems to have been pushed back, resuming in late March 2021 instead of November 2020. From Wideroe's commercial perspective, this is almost certainly the correct decision
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ATC and the last Easyjet flight saying their goodbyes. A very sad time for the staff and supporters here.
https://youtu.be/504aAiZ-Oqk
report here.
https://www.essexlive.news/news/esse...flight-4474435
https://youtu.be/504aAiZ-Oqk
report here.
https://www.essexlive.news/news/esse...flight-4474435
Maybe EZY will return one day, but unfortunately that day is probably a long way off. For now the limited Ryanair operation plus Wizz Air, Wideroe, ASL Cargo and of course JOTA will remain as the airport tries to survive........
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East Midlands found its feet with Ryanair and later Jet 2 so there is always hope of better days to come.
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Of all the 'London' airports, Southend has many advantages for both airline and passenger.
push back to wheels up has got to be the quickest and therefore cheapest - how many tonnes of fuel does it save? just knowing if you are a couple of minutes late you haven't lost your slot and have a 45 minute delay makes planning easier
same goes for passengers, no 40 minute walk to gate 1, no hour long queues for passport control and security. total that up, for both passengers and taxiing, and it probably saves a good hour or so from arrival at airport to being in the air, and the same on return.
rail links to london no worse than luton or stanstead.
biggest drawback is the airlines not offering the destinations.
push back to wheels up has got to be the quickest and therefore cheapest - how many tonnes of fuel does it save? just knowing if you are a couple of minutes late you haven't lost your slot and have a 45 minute delay makes planning easier
same goes for passengers, no 40 minute walk to gate 1, no hour long queues for passport control and security. total that up, for both passengers and taxiing, and it probably saves a good hour or so from arrival at airport to being in the air, and the same on return.
rail links to london no worse than luton or stanstead.
biggest drawback is the airlines not offering the destinations.
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Might be why it’s currently the quickest airport in the London area.
I really hope things improve in the not so distant future because I actually do like using Southend Airport when I can.
Southend has many disadvantages for both airline and passenger.
Lack of brand awareness (perception of fauilure?), "interesting" financial position of the airport operator, operating restrictions, poor road access, limited terminal facilities - shops, bars, etc, lack of destinations, no economies of scale for operators/high start up costs if your setting up a base/plenty of availability at more established rivals.
Lack of brand awareness (perception of fauilure?), "interesting" financial position of the airport operator, operating restrictions, poor road access, limited terminal facilities - shops, bars, etc, lack of destinations, no economies of scale for operators/high start up costs if your setting up a base/plenty of availability at more established rivals.
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Southend has many disadvantages for both airline and passenger.
Lack of brand awareness (perception of fauilure?), "interesting" financial position of the airport operator, operating restrictions, poor road access, limited terminal facilities - shops, bars, etc, lack of destinations, no economies of scale for operators/high start up costs if your setting up a base/plenty of availability at more established rivals.
Lack of brand awareness (perception of fauilure?), "interesting" financial position of the airport operator, operating restrictions, poor road access, limited terminal facilities - shops, bars, etc, lack of destinations, no economies of scale for operators/high start up costs if your setting up a base/plenty of availability at more established rivals.
I agree that it's certainly stretching things to suggest that SEN is unattractive to passengers and SWBKCB's litany of supposed weakness of the airport itself belie the success SEN has seen in recent years. Certainly the new situation of previous capacity constraints elsewhere having eased will not help SEN to attract new routes and operators in the short to medium term. The fact is that none of us knows what lies ahead for UK aviation, or for our own lives come to that. Personally I wish all UK airports well as SEN is not the only one that faces a tough future and my posts will try to bear that in mind.
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I agree that it's certainly stretching things to suggest that SEN is unattractive to passengers and Planespeaking's litany of supposed weakness of the airport itself belie the success SEN has seen in recent years. Certainly the new situation of previous capacity constraints elsewhere having eased will not help SEN to attract new routes and operators in the short to medium term. The fact is that none of us knows what lies ahead for UK aviation, or for our own lives come to that. Personally I wish all UK airports well as SEN is not the only one that faces a tough future and my posts will try to bear that in mind.
