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As gloomy as things are I believe SEN isn’t the London airport in the worst position - it does have some diversity beyond pax ops which surely puts it ahead of LCY. I’d imagine SEN also has more pax throughout than LCY.
I agree that SEN has more diversity potential than LCY but the latter doesn't really need that diversity as it handled 5.1 million pax in 2019.
Will Norway be allowing people to enter from the UK without 14 days quarantine by the end of next week ? I think the criteria is less than 20 cases per 100,000 over 14 days. Data from ECDC shows the UK currently at 20.4 cases
Barling - could you provide a sample date with direct London-Kristiansand flights ? I can see only Southend-Bergen from 31 August. The earliest Southend-Kristiansand I can find is 02 November
Barling - could you provide a sample date with direct London-Kristiansand flights ? I can see only Southend-Bergen from 31 August. The earliest Southend-Kristiansand I can find is 02 November
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How exactly does LCY’s pax total for 2019 help things when it’s largest business markets which form the bedrock of its overall function aren’t in the office and aren’t travelling, and it’s biggest airline customer is focusing on Heathrow and has limited ops? With most of its busiest core routes on a skeleton schedule or not running at all, and it’s second biggest operator having collapsed in March...
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I would suggest that LCY's 5.1 million pax puts them in a strong position to recover over time once business travel starts to grow from its very low current base. If its prime customer, the City of London, doesn't generate that sort of travel demand over the next few years then perhaps we're in deeper doo-doo as a nation than we think we are. Perhaps you think that won't happen, which is fair enough, but I believe it will as businesses will need to maximise their efforts to recover/strengthen existing markets and grow new ones. Just my opinion of course, but I cannot see video calls and conferencing taking the place of face-to-face meetings. SEN was still making progress in 2020 as a growing, 'new kid on the block' leisure gateway and has suffered a severe kickback to those ambitions. As things stand I definitely see their need of more diversified operations being much greater than that of LCY.
I would suggest that LCY's 5.1 million pax puts them in a strong position to recover over time once business travel starts to grow from its very low current base. If its prime customer, the City of London, doesn't generate that sort of travel demand over the next few years then perhaps we're in deeper doo-doo as a nation than we think we are. Perhaps you think that won't happen, which is fair enough, but I believe it will as businesses will need to maximise their efforts to recover/strengthen existing markets and grow new ones. Just my opinion of course, but I cannot see video calls and conferencing taking the place of face-to-face meetings. SEN was still making progress in 2020 as a growing, 'new kid on the block' leisure gateway and has suffered a severe kickback to those ambitions. As things stand I definitely see their need of more diversified operations being much greater than that of LCY.
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The issue isn’t recovery per se but the nature of it. It’s becoming clearer the nature of work and business will change, that’s not to say zoom takes over and face to face is dead but the likes of HSBC, Barclays etc have acknowledged they likely won’t return in same way. Plus financial services companies and roles have been quietly (quiet or hidden?) trickling elsewhere in Europe prior to something that cannot be mentioned. Fundamentally SEN’s core market hasn’t gone anywhere - unless the Government really do persevere with the worst version of the thing that cannot be mentioned - whereas LCY’s looks like it could dramatically and detrimentally change.
We'll have to agree to differ on our post-Covid hopes and expectations I think.
As far as Brexit is concerned that's certainly another unknown but is hardly unmentionable surely. I'll know perhaps by whether or not this post survives!
As far as Brexit is concerned that's certainly another unknown but is hardly unmentionable surely. I'll know perhaps by whether or not this post survives!
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Will Norway be allowing people to enter from the UK without 14 days quarantine by the end of next week ? I think the criteria is less than 20 cases per 100,000 over 14 days. Data from ECDC shows the UK currently at 20.4 cases
Barling - could you provide a sample date with direct London-Kristiansand flights ? I can see only Southend-Bergen from 31 August. The earliest Southend-Kristiansand I can find is 02 November
Barling - could you provide a sample date with direct London-Kristiansand flights ? I can see only Southend-Bergen from 31 August. The earliest Southend-Kristiansand I can find is 02 November
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Both Kristiansand and Bergen are bookable on the Wideroe website wef 31st August operating Monday and Friday, with KRS being via BGO. KRS increases to 5 x weekly wef 4th November as a direct flight while BGO remains at 2 x weekly. At least that seems the plan at the moment.
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As DavidJohnson6 suspected Norway has added the UK and Ireland to its list of countries from which visitors arriving in Norway will need to quarantine for ten days because of increasing cases of Covid-19. That hardly helps the new Wideroe service............
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Looks like Ryanair have tentatively scheduled the return of Milan Bergamo on 28 March 2021 (4x weekly) and Brest for 29 March 2021 (2x weekly). Whilst they are bookable, most prices are currently inflated to put customers off purchasing.
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Wideroe's first flight into SEN from Bergen has landed this morning, receiving the water arch greeting. A small piece of good news on the day that EZY close their base.....