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Old 2nd Jan 2020, 20:33
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I'd rather pay £200 than try and swim it
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Old 2nd Jan 2020, 20:48
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More worrying is it cost £200 for a one way flight!!
Quite the opposite, if people are paying £200 that’s great for the airline, great for the route and great for Southend.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 09:14
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The Flybe news is surely going to have an impact on SEN. Could this be disastrous for Stobart? Or is the situation under control and one Southend Airport could actually gain from as Virgin Connect find a legal way to lose all the parts of Flybe they don't want, and "save" what they need to provide the means to support their objectives, one of which was significant growth at SEN?

The only thing that puzzles me is why they didn't let Flybe go under before stumping up the cash to keep it going a year ago.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 10:28
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I cannot see this being good news for Stobart.

Their shares have fallen 7% this morning and I wonder if Stobart have put cash into Connect which was in turn loaned to Flybe to sustain operations so far. It could be that a Pre Pack Sale deal might be done to extract the viable parts of the Flybe operation while leaving the rest for the liquidators to deal with. Let's just hope it doesn't come to that and financing can be found to keep Flybe in the air - if only for the sake of its employees and customers.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 11:57
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
I cannot see this being good news for Stobart.

Their shares have fallen 7% this morning and I wonder if Stobart have put cash into Connect which was in turn loaned to Flybe to sustain operations so far. It could be that a Pre Pack Sale deal might be done to extract the viable parts of the Flybe operation while leaving the rest for the liquidators to deal with. Let's just hope it doesn't come to that and financing can be found to keep Flybe in the air - if only for the sake of its employees and customers.
The share price drop might be to do with Stobart's long term majority shareholder and owner (Invesco) selling over half their shares to an activist fund manager. The market will need to work out why Invesco are selling down, what plans the activist fund manager has for Stobart going forward (activist fund managers get actively involved in the running of the company), and of course, what effect the FlyBe news has / will have on revenues at SEN.

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Old 13th Jan 2020, 13:43
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Stobart bought into Flybe for next to nothing The question is did they sink more money into,it or are they part of the whole asset stripping scam
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 13:57
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Stobart bought into Flybe for next to nothing The question is did they sink more money into,it or are they part of the whole asset stripping scam
As far as I recall Stobart contributed their aircraft leasing asset business (previously called Propius) and Stobart Air (the AOC holding company) in return for their 30% share in Connect Airways. Whether they had also to contribute cash to keep Flybe afloat I don't know.
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Old 14th Jan 2020, 11:24
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For connect airways you can probably read Heathrow slot merchants now
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Old 14th Jan 2020, 12:12
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
As far as I recall Stobart contributed their aircraft leasing asset business (previously called Propius) and Stobart Air (the AOC holding company) in return for their 30% share in Connect Airways. Whether they had also to contribute cash to keep Flybe afloat I don't know.
Any govt. support for FlyBe is conditional on all 3 owners, including Stobart, pledging cash sums to support the airline going forward.

At the time of the creation of Connect Airways, Stobart gave the aircraft and AOC in lieu of a cash contribution as they didn't have the cash to spend. I'm not sure where Stobart are going to find the cash now needed to support a govt. deal.
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Old 14th Jan 2020, 13:03
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Sure I read somewhere that the current crisis was caused by Stobart and the venture capitalist not liking the way things were going so hadn't put in what was expected?
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Old 14th Jan 2020, 21:52
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Any city diversions today ?
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Old 15th Jan 2020, 05:02
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All the ones I viewed on flightradar 24 last night ended up in Birmingham. Also saw an inbound Easyjet to Southend also track in the direction of Birmingham.
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Old 15th Jan 2020, 06:06
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Any city diversions today ?
Yes, we received KLM, Lufthansa, Luxair, Aer Lingus and CFE.
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Old 15th Jan 2020, 07:09
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Change of ownership

Andrew Tinkler has sold his remaining shares in Stobart Group. At the same time Invesco has divested a further tranche of shares reducing their holding over the past week from 25% to 11%.
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Old 15th Jan 2020, 08:23
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Tosca Fund has allegedly been picking up shares at a good rate recently.
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Old 15th Jan 2020, 12:17
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Ah, the Rottweiller has his eyes on Stobart....
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Old 15th Jan 2020, 23:04
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Tosca own nearly 12% now.
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Old 16th Jan 2020, 08:33
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Wideroe to fly daily to Kristiansand from 29th March with DHC-8-Q402 Dash 8
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Old 16th Jan 2020, 08:39
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Wideroe to fly daily to Kristiansand from 29th March with DHC-8-Q402 Dash 8
Is that a switch from STN, or an additional flight?
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Old 16th Jan 2020, 09:02
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It is a switch.
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