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I guess there is a wider point across all airports that arbitrary summer/winter schedule dates miss this kind of stuff and sometimes defy logic. I’ve noticed in the past for example that Med destinations have ceased before the end of Half Term, but that’s something EZY/FR have got much smarter at in recent years.
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There is huge demand just before Xmas for people all over Europe to get on a plane and see their families in late Dec, when people have moved country to find work
Perhaps a better evaluation of SEN-SBZ might be outside the Xmas peak
Perhaps a better evaluation of SEN-SBZ might be outside the Xmas peak
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I think we just have to accept that no matter how full or high yielding Wizz flights are at SEN the airline’s preference is to be at LTN. Flights and routes will inevitably come and go depending on capacity at LTN. This is just a budget version of what has long occurred between LGW/STN and LHR.
The fact that Wizz have acquired 17 slot pairs at LTN from TUI is probably the reason. I suspect they see LTN very much as their 'back yard' and they want to protect that against the competition. However, if (as reported elsewhere) the Wizz operations at SEN have so far exceeded expectations then some modest growth may also be expected there.
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Xmas strike
Just been confirmed that the threatened strike at SEN is to take place on the 24th, 25th and 26th December after talks at ACAS failed to find a solution to the Union's issues surrounding staff safety and training.
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And in other news:
1. Councillors have raised night time noise issues with airport and told all flights are within existing planning constraints. I wonder when the Council will wake up to the fact that using the Quota Count noise system implemented at LHR, LGW and STN is just not suitable for a short runway airport such as SEN? Most probably never.
2. Ryanair launch twice weekly Girona route for S2020.
1. Councillors have raised night time noise issues with airport and told all flights are within existing planning constraints. I wonder when the Council will wake up to the fact that using the Quota Count noise system implemented at LHR, LGW and STN is just not suitable for a short runway airport such as SEN? Most probably never.
2. Ryanair launch twice weekly Girona route for S2020.
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Surely the RYR SEN-GRO route was announced weeks ago was it not?
I'm prepared to be persuaded, but why is the Quota Count noise system not suitable for "a short runway airport such as SEN" yet appropriate for LHR, LGW and STN?
Surely the RYR SEN-GRO route was announced weeks ago was it not?
I'm prepared to be persuaded, but why is the Quota Count noise system not suitable for "a short runway airport such as SEN" yet appropriate for LHR, LGW and STN?
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I think we just have to accept that no matter how full or high yielding Wizz flights are at SEN the airline’s preference is to be at LTN. Flights and routes will inevitably come and go depending on capacity at LTN. This is just a budget version of what has long occurred between LGW/STN and LHR.
With the UK leaving the EU I would imagine there will be a slow decline in London passenger numbers as some migrants drift home and are not replaced so I would think there will be a retreat to fortress Luton at some point. Also the council will soon vote on a planning application to increase not only noise but passenger figures to 19 million. They can do this repeatedly to 22.5 million as this is the stated capacity within the existing boundary although they did claim once it was 18 million.
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Story from just before xmas about a Loganair E145 being 'too heavy' to take off from Southend so 5 passengers had to get off.
“When the weather cleared at Derry, a combination of low pressure and rainfall left the runway surface at Southend in a condition which imposed limitations on the aircraft performance. The aircraft was consequently over its maximum available take-off weight for the conditions. "
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a9259266.html
“When the weather cleared at Derry, a combination of low pressure and rainfall left the runway surface at Southend in a condition which imposed limitations on the aircraft performance. The aircraft was consequently over its maximum available take-off weight for the conditions. "
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a9259266.html
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Makes me think that the Embraer must be a very marginal aircraft for Southend if it cannot fly a domestic route without offloading passengers while for Easyjet and Ryanair it was just another day unless they also had to off load passengers which wasn’t reported.
Found this very interesting article about air density and other weather issues making a difference to runway performance.
https://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/...eoff_and_Climb
Found this very interesting article about air density and other weather issues making a difference to runway performance.
https://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/...eoff_and_Climb
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The article suggests it had a lot of baggage as well as a full load of pax so probably any other day of the year and any other conditions this wouldn’t have been a problem.
Its quite a non-story, only becoming a ‘story’ because one of their ‘journalists’ was amongst the pax.
Its quite a non-story, only becoming a ‘story’ because one of their ‘journalists’ was amongst the pax.