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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 15:20
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New taxiway.. more stands and a new terminal, or hefty extension .. all great for jobs in the area.
‘Is the Amazon story true or just a rumour ?
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 15:41
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Originally Posted by SARF
‘Is the Amazon story true or just a rumour ?
As far as I can find out it is true but nothing has been said officially so I think I'll not say any more until it is.
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 15:48
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Originally Posted by aurigny72
Yes fatmed any bit of supposedly bad news for SEN there is LTNMAN back in a flash to let us all know about it, yet when there is good news for SEN e.g. new airlines/new routes starting one does not hear much from him
I just find it really depressing when I read a comment like this. No basis for the comment but lets make it anyway. I would suggest next time that you think twice before you write BS.

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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 16:10
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
As far as I can find out it is true but nothing has been said officially so I think I'll not say any more until it is.
thanks EF.....

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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 16:27
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
As far as I can find out it is true but nothing has been said officially so I think I'll not say any more until it is.
Amazon usually use the nearest Airport as their identifier for fulfilment centres. IE LTN1-4 , EDI , GLA , CWL
Does anybody know if there is a Amazon site close to Southend as this is usually a good indication.

Great news about Wizz flights, SEN certainly on a roll right now.
I do wonder what Stobarts plan is though, simply build up the Airport and sell on or are they really in it for the long term?
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 16:32
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Originally Posted by Falcon666
Does anybody know if there is a Amazon site close to Southend as this is usually a good indicator
They have one in Canning Town, for which SEN is probably the best airport as it’s straight down the A13.
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 16:45
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Originally Posted by LTNman
I just find it really depressing when I read a comment like this. No basis for the comment but lets make it anyway. I would suggest next time that you think twice before you write BS.
Look back on some of today's post from four or five different contributors, all of whom find an anti SEN theme in your comments.

Of course you are right to express your opinion, but don't come over all offended when people call you out when you gloat at every bit of perceived bad news about SEN. Which you have done for months and years.

What you don't seem to understand is that when you do post something of interest or fact it is disregarded because of your anti SEN track record.

Now instead of being a keyboard warrior telling airport and airline CEOs where they have gone wrong (and by the way why haven't you been co-opted into aviation boardrooms around London) give the rest of us a balanced opinion which we can respect.



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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 16:48
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One in Tilbury since 2017, most likely to do with that one.
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 17:18
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I would suggest without offending anyone that when space is tight you don't want a cargo operation like Amazon if they block stands all day with parked cargo aircraft when those stands could be used for passengers flights. Looking forward at a much bigger Southend where passengers are bused to remote stands where would an Amazon operation go that would never impact on passenger capacity? Also what about the night limits or are all cargo flights exempt?.
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 17:39
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Originally Posted by LTNman
I would suggest without offending anyone that when space is tight you don't want a cargo operation like Amazon if they block stands all day with parked cargo aircraft when those stands could be used for passengers flights. Looking forward at a much bigger Southend where passengers are bused to remote stands where would an Amazon operation go that would never impact on passenger capacity? Also what about the night limits or are all cargo flights exempt?.
I don't think anyone is suggesting Cargo planes being based, but it might restrict all that Biz traffic which had been picked up from other London airports.
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 18:29
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Is there any freight being turfed out of other airports because they’d rather have the slots for bigger pax aircraft? What about those Swift Brasilia’s at STN, who do they operate for?
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 18:36
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
Is there any freight being turfed out of other airports because they’d rather have the slots for bigger pax aircraft? What about those Swift Brasilia’s at STN, who do they operate for?
FedEx so they re not going anywhere. all the cargo at Stansted is either widebody or linked to FedEx, UPS, TNT or Royal Mail so not moving to SEN
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 21:12
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Originally Posted by LTNman
I would suggest without offending anyone that when space is tight you don't want a cargo operation like Amazon if they block stands all day with parked cargo aircraft when those stands could be used for passengers flights. Looking forward at a much bigger Southend where passengers are bused to remote stands where would an Amazon operation go that would never impact on passenger capacity? Also what about the night limits or are all cargo flights exempt?.
​​​​​​Room for development on the opposite side of the R/W to the terminal. A significant hangar / warehouse could be constructed at the end of taxiway foxtrot. Road access via the new industrial park. A quick refresher on the airport's history will remind you that the airport has been about much more than passenger services over the years.

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Old 24th Aug 2019, 06:56
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Originally Posted by LTNman
I would suggest without offending anyone that when space is tight you don't want a cargo operation like Amazon if they block stands all day with parked cargo aircraft when those stands could be used for passengers flights. Looking forward at a much bigger Southend where passengers are bused to remote stands where would an Amazon operation go that would never impact on passenger capacity? Also what about the night limits or are all cargo flights exempt?.
I don't think you need to worry on that score. The hangar that is being converted for the freight handling operation is on the North side of the airfield at the end of taxiway Delta. I assume that any day-stopping aircraft will park on that side of the airfield. Cargo flights are not exempt from the night limits and the flight schedule that I've been told for this operation would use around 90 of the 120 monthly night slots. I should think that if the revenue from this operation exceeds that generated by an equivalent number of bizjet movements then Stobart are happy with that.
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Old 24th Aug 2019, 07:58
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Any of our plane loving SEN readers qualified as a priest? Church Times

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Old 24th Aug 2019, 08:06
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Well, there are those at the airport who could do with pastoral care. Actually, it would be nice if anyone cared.

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/178...-cancellation/

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Old 24th Aug 2019, 10:46
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
I don't think you need to worry on that score. The hangar that is being converted for the freight handling operation is on the North side of the airfield at the end of taxiway Delta. I assume that any day-stopping aircraft will park on that side of the airfield. Cargo flights are not exempt from the night limits and the flight schedule that I've been told for this operation would use around 90 of the 120 monthly night slots. I should think that if the revenue from this operation exceeds that generated by an equivalent number of bizjet movements then Stobart are happy with that.
Is this the Inflite hangar or Hangar 2 ? The former has been empty I believe for three years or so since Inflite ceased MRO work at SEN though they have continued to use the adjacent workshops for their component overhaul business. Hangar 2 I think houses only a small number of aircraft which could be relocated if necessary.
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Old 24th Aug 2019, 11:04
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Originally Posted by Tagron
Is this the Inflite hangar or Hangar 2 ? The former has been empty I believe for three years or so since Inflite ceased MRO work at SEN though they have continued to use the adjacent workshops for their component overhaul business. Hangar 2 I think houses only a small number of aircraft which could be relocated if necessary.
I'm pretty sure it's the old Inflite hangar, although I haven't been to have a look at it myself.
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Old 25th Aug 2019, 22:26
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
Well, there are those at the airport who could do with pastoral care. Actually, it would be nice if anyone cared.

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/178...-cancellation/
Passengers were allowed to sleep on the grass when I thought the grass had keep off signs. This was an act of great compassion by a caring airport although passengers would have preferred not to have been kicked out of the terminal with nowhere to go in the middle of the night.

Well done Southend. The passengers were being unreasonable.

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Old 25th Aug 2019, 23:17
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I wouldn’t pay too much attention to the echo.
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