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Yes indeed mikkie that must have come as a bitter disappointment to some of the Bedfordshire brotherhood.
I am sorry that many of LTNs pax had their travel disrupted in the last 24 hours, however to be fair much of that was wx related and I understand Swanwick had problems.
Well done to all at SEN and with one of the highest temps on record it proves that the airlines/airport can operate efficiently and with little commercial penalty even in the most extreme conditions.
It would be good if some of our critics would welcome that fact, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Who would have thought back in 2009 that 10 years later SEN would have 80 scheduled airline flights departing or arriving in a single day! Incredible news. Sadly the weather has conspired to make both Mikkie's and Planespeaking's posts a tad daft. Mahon and Lourdes are the stand out delays from the morning departures. I think there will be many more before the day it finished.
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For heavens sake, why cant people on this thread just grow up and stop acting like children. We are adults, have an adult conversation and accept people have different views on different topics. If everyone thought and felt the same way then it would be boring. For the record, I live in Bedfordshire and have no agenda.
Steps down off the soapbox
Steps down off the soapbox
Well done to all at SEN and with one of the highest temps on record it proves that the airlines/airport can operate efficiently and with little commercial penalty even in the most extreme conditions.It would be good if some of our critics would welcome that fact, but I'm not holding my breath.
I'm sure Stobarts must be delighted, and perhaps a little surprised, that in temperatures up to 35 degrees the operation of the fleets of B738 and A320 aircraft remained virtually unaffected to destinations far more distant than anyone would have envisaged even being served 5 years ago. Even the EZY A319s, with their de-rated spec engines, seem to have exceeded expectations. I hope that even the sternest of critics of SEN will accept this as being true and that it puts another 'tick' in SEN's box.
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Yes indeed mikkie that must have come as a bitter disappointment to some of the Bedfordshire brotherhood.
It doesn't bother me if Southend handles 1,2, 5 or 10 million passengers. What happens at Southend has no effect on other London Airports so good luck in their efforts to expand. If I think passengers are getting a raw deal, are being mistreated, are being bumped, are stuck in long queues or that Stobart is telling porkies I will say something that a few here conceive as a negative comment although looking back on old posts I am struggling to find any. This is no different than my comments about LTN except I am either ignored on that thread or people know I want to see a better LTN just like I want to see a better SEN. OK, is that clear.
On the other hand we have a majority here who see success as purely a head count, number of routes and airline visits. I like to look at the bigger picture, sorry if that offends.
So Luton has 17.355 million passengers and Southend around 1.5 million passengers. So which is the better airport and why? Go figure!
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Not true though, last night’s Aberdeen and Groningen flights were cancelled although with LCY diverts I think overall SEN had a net gain. Also many delays today, although it’s largely down to ATC elsewhere.
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I don't really understand why people feel it necessary to run down any airport in comparison to SEN and vice versa. It would be preferable for us to focus on rumours and facts about SEN's past, present and future rather than sniping at others and have others snipe at us. As LTN man says SEN poses no threat to other London airports and actually assists them, especially LCY and STN, when closures occur there (there were four LCY diversions into SEN yesterday evening for example). SEN will never challenge LTN, STN or LGW. Let's celebrate the success of turning round a moribund facility into a growing international airport whilst acknowledging its limitations. Surely that's better for everybody's blood pressure.........?
I'm still trying to understand the reasons for the imbalance between the inbound and outbound loads on the FlyOne KIV-SEN service.
Last Friday the numbers were KIV-SEN 25 and SEN-KIV 139 + 9 infants. Those numbers are similar to those of the previous flights on this new route.
Last Friday the numbers were KIV-SEN 25 and SEN-KIV 139 + 9 infants. Those numbers are similar to those of the previous flights on this new route.
I don't know specifics about the SEN-KIV route, but I've seen in previous summers on similiar routes a big rush to return to the town/village where the rest of the family live (eg see elderly parents) over the summer and return to the place of work at the end of August / early September.
Many born in the UK will go to Ibiza over the summer for a week or two. Many Moldovans living in the UK will presumably rush to Moldova over the summer for 2 weeks. You can see something similiar in the Italy-Albania market
Many born in the UK will go to Ibiza over the summer for a week or two. Many Moldovans living in the UK will presumably rush to Moldova over the summer for 2 weeks. You can see something similiar in the Italy-Albania market
Last week I did promise to offer my observations of visiting SEN for the first time since RYR commenced ops there.
Towards the middle of the day the check-in hall was busy but flowing well with a high volume of hold baggage evident - understandable at the start of the peak holiday period. The new Costa and W H Smith outlets landside are good additions and both were busy. There was no queue to Security, just a steady flow up the elevators and along the walkway with no bottlenecks evident. Very few people were making use of the large lawned area in front of the terminal despite (or maybe because of) the very hot weather. The incoming trains were offloading large numbers and the Long Stay 3 (free 15 minutes) drop-off was well used as was the Short Stay (£3 for 10 minutes) drop-off. Signage for dropped pax exiting the Long Stay drop-off could be better and I mentioned this to management. All in all everything was running smoothly but that might not reflect how it is at 05:00 of course. I watched the RYR CFU departure and it looked to me it used max thrust (rotation looked a little earlier than usual) rather than flex as, apparently, is normal for RYR at SEN. Temperature was around 31C at the time with a 5kt headwind component.
There is now a train ticket machine facing you as the come out of the Customs hall but that is poorly sited as meet-and-greeters tend to obscure it. Most I'm sure walk to the station and buy their tickets there, although I always pre-book.
All in all things looked good but this was just a snapshot at a fairly quiet time of day; perhaps 6 departures and 6 arrivals within a 2 hour period.
I don't intend this as a 'how wonderful SEN is' review at all; just what I saw at the time.
P.S. There had been a drone scare a little while before I arrived and the airfield was closed for 30 minutes but no diversions were needed; just some holding overhead.
Towards the middle of the day the check-in hall was busy but flowing well with a high volume of hold baggage evident - understandable at the start of the peak holiday period. The new Costa and W H Smith outlets landside are good additions and both were busy. There was no queue to Security, just a steady flow up the elevators and along the walkway with no bottlenecks evident. Very few people were making use of the large lawned area in front of the terminal despite (or maybe because of) the very hot weather. The incoming trains were offloading large numbers and the Long Stay 3 (free 15 minutes) drop-off was well used as was the Short Stay (£3 for 10 minutes) drop-off. Signage for dropped pax exiting the Long Stay drop-off could be better and I mentioned this to management. All in all everything was running smoothly but that might not reflect how it is at 05:00 of course. I watched the RYR CFU departure and it looked to me it used max thrust (rotation looked a little earlier than usual) rather than flex as, apparently, is normal for RYR at SEN. Temperature was around 31C at the time with a 5kt headwind component.
There is now a train ticket machine facing you as the come out of the Customs hall but that is poorly sited as meet-and-greeters tend to obscure it. Most I'm sure walk to the station and buy their tickets there, although I always pre-book.
All in all things looked good but this was just a snapshot at a fairly quiet time of day; perhaps 6 departures and 6 arrivals within a 2 hour period.
I don't intend this as a 'how wonderful SEN is' review at all; just what I saw at the time.
P.S. There had been a drone scare a little while before I arrived and the airfield was closed for 30 minutes but no diversions were needed; just some holding overhead.
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I looked in at SEN this morning and while I was there a diversion arrived, BE1333 from Edinburgh, which should have gone to London City. No idea why this occurred and I THINK it was 67 on board. In the middle of counting a baggage truck stopped right in my line of sight but I don't think I missed any. The two BA Embraers that diverted in yesterday evening were still there too. Nice to see the variety!
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I don't know specifics about the SEN-KIV route, but I've seen in previous summers on similiar routes a big rush to return to the town/village where the rest of the family live (eg see elderly parents) over the summer and return to the place of work at the end of August / early September.
Many born in the UK will go to Ibiza over the summer for a week or two. Many Moldovans living in the UK will presumably rush to Moldova over the summer for 2 weeks. You can see something similiar in the Italy-Albania market
Many born in the UK will go to Ibiza over the summer for a week or two. Many Moldovans living in the UK will presumably rush to Moldova over the summer for 2 weeks. You can see something similiar in the Italy-Albania market
Pleased to note that Southend Municipal has been 'upgraded' to London Southend on Flyone's booking page.
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Just thought I’d post this piece from tonight’s echo.
https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/178...nair-loganair/
https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/178...nair-loganair/
Much news in the press about Ryanair wanting to cut staff and routes
Quite a few Ryanair routes at Southend have some pretty low fares available - suggesting demand is not great. Any thoughts on how SEN will fare in this episode ?
Quite a few Ryanair routes at Southend have some pretty low fares available - suggesting demand is not great. Any thoughts on how SEN will fare in this episode ?
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I think SEN will be fine. The airport will be paying the airline to be at SEN for at least the initial 12 months of operations, maybe longer. Ryanair will take the freebie and close bases where costs of operation are higher.
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