Southend-2
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In the sticks
Posts: 9,843
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Thats interesting, I thought the 738 is, as a rule, a poorer performer than the A319/320, is this the benefit of the SFP on FRs newer 737s? Apparently the 320neo is, more or less, unrestricted out of SEN, unlike the A319s - easyJets examples are derated, I understand? Interestingly most of the A319 sales in recent years have been to Chinese airlines operating into high airfields in the Himalayas - a different species of A319 to ehe easyJet examples.
You are correct to point out tthat the 738SFP was a game changer for 738 operations at SEN. The non-SFP 738 offered a reasonable radius of operation based on take off performance but the real killer in terms of regular commercial operation was the landing distance requirement, which meant that the inbound load would have to be restricted for all operations whatever the sector distance. There is no means of carrying out a proper comparison using data available in the public arena but my own best guess using available sources is that 738SFP is broadly similar to the A320 in the context of SEN operations. This view is supported by FR's choice of initial SE routes.
You are also correct to point out that the EZY A319 is derated which means that it is more likely to be restricted by adverse conditions than the A320. The EZY aircraft is the A319-111 subtype with 22k lb thrust engines . Other airlines at SEN this summer use the A319-112 with 23.5k engines which offer improved field performance, Air Malta, FlyOne and Volotea. The new FlyOne Chisinau service is the longest sector scheduled for SEN this summer. I would not expect it to suffer any payload penalties, assisted as it is by the late evening departure time.
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Leeds, UK & Cork, Ireland
Posts: 1,080
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Thanks for the clarification. Just to add another type into the mix, the A320neo has better take off performance than the CEO, but I think single-engine out performance might still be an issue at SEN? For the 737 I hadn't considered the landing weight at all, we all think about the take-off and forget the landing. How anyone could forget the typical FR landing....
Aircraft at SEN requires fuel stop for AGP flight
That got a few people's interest I bet.
Some will be disappointed to hear it was a BA E190 en route LCY-AGP which dropped into SEN for fuel. Apparently they chose to do this rather than dump pax from the flight. All credit to BACF. Both airports had a temp of 35C but no problem for SEN-AGP with a full E195 apparently.
That got a few people's interest I bet.
Some will be disappointed to hear it was a BA E190 en route LCY-AGP which dropped into SEN for fuel. Apparently they chose to do this rather than dump pax from the flight. All credit to BACF. Both airports had a temp of 35C but no problem for SEN-AGP with a full E195 apparently.
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Daws Heath Essex
Posts: 446
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Aircraft at SEN requires fuel stop for AGP flight
That got a few people's interest I bet.
Some will be disappointed to hear it was a BA E190 en route LCY-AGP which dropped into SEN for fuel. Apparently they chose to do this rather than dump pax from the flight. All credit to BACF. Both airports had a temp of 35C but no problem for SEN-AGP with a full E195 apparently.
That got a few people's interest I bet.
Some will be disappointed to hear it was a BA E190 en route LCY-AGP which dropped into SEN for fuel. Apparently they chose to do this rather than dump pax from the flight. All credit to BACF. Both airports had a temp of 35C but no problem for SEN-AGP with a full E195 apparently.
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In the sticks
Posts: 9,843
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
So no Southend passengers bumped off flights from Southend then. That is very good news. Also are you saying an E195 has the same performance figures as say an easyjet A319?
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Daws Heath Essex
Posts: 446
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Talking of the A319, the two flights I thought might struggle today were 16:40/16:45 departures to AGP and FAO which were operated by A319s. I'm told both flights were "close to capacity" so that does rather put into perspective some of the pessimistic comments posted on here earlier in the week. What did one poster say? We should expect events that would be "a nightmare for those who will be losing their family holiday" (not you I know, but from your neck of the woods).
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: rochford essex
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Essex
Posts: 1,228
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I am disappointed that easyJet seem to be choosing to distress a few rather than make a (costly) fuel stop, as has happened in previous years. However, it does need to be noted that today was the hottest July day ever recorded. I also think it's worth pointing out that yesterday evening over 150 pax didn't make it to AMS, and another, 150 + didn't get back to SEN, because a contactor was unable to fuel aircraft at Schiphol.
I make the points because I believe perspective is important. Doesn't mean I'm not critical of what appears to going on, because for this airport every passenger matters. Or they should do.
I make the points because I believe perspective is important. Doesn't mean I'm not critical of what appears to going on, because for this airport every passenger matters. Or they should do.
Three EZY A320 (two being neo) aircraft operating at SEN today and 40 scheduled departures by eight airlines. I think that's the highest daily number in SEN's new incarnation.
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: essex
Posts: 595
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
unlike all the other London airports SEN has no delays/cancelations this news will no doubt upset the people that have got it in for our airport, WELL DONE EZY/RYAN AIR for keeping things running smoothly
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Daws Heath Essex
Posts: 446
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I am sorry that many of LTNs pax had their travel disrupted in the last 24 hours, however to be fair much of that was wx related and I understand Swanwick had problems.
Well done to all at SEN and with one of the highest temps on record it proves that the airlines/airport can operate efficiently and with little commercial penalty even in the most extreme conditions.
It would be good if some of our critics would welcome that fact, but I'm not holding my breath.