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If passengers booked a hotel through Easyjet I would think they would be the last people to be kicked off as I think Easyjet would be liable for the lost hotel accommodation as well because passengers would have bought a package. On the day through would those that pick the unfortunate know who has booked a package?
Reading last weeks newspaper article it would appear that those kicked off had no idea what was the real cause of their misery.
Could Easyjet not take a full load and refuel on the way at a small airport to reduce the delay?
Is Ryanair affected by this issue?
Reading last weeks newspaper article it would appear that those kicked off had no idea what was the real cause of their misery.
Could Easyjet not take a full load and refuel on the way at a small airport to reduce the delay?
Is Ryanair affected by this issue?
It will certainly be interesting to see if SEN ops are affected this week by high temperatures/wind conditions imposing limiting RTOWs. When and if that happens is the time to discuss things in my opinion, rather than pessimistic speculation at this stage. I hope someone also monitors LCY ops, and maybe elsewhere, in a similar manner to add a little balance to the discussion.
A spokesman for easyJet said: “As with all airlines, weight restrictions are in place for safety reasons. The aircraft was overweight for the weather conditions which meant that 11 passengers had to be transferred onto a later flight. "
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I hope it doesn't come down to what is the cheapest option for the airline rather than doing what is the right thing. I also seem to remember that Easyjet have done refuelling stops in the past from Southend. Not knowing much about performance Vs temperature I would have thought wind speed and wind direction would also pay a part so a gale blowing down the runway might save the day.
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It needs to be said that when EZY tell the poor unfortunates - whose holiday plans are being thrown into disarray - that they are sooooo sorry, but safety is everything in aviation - you can bet your bottom dollar they don't tell them there is a perfectly workable alternative, but it costs the airline a great deal more and plays havoc with the schedule.
It doesn't sit well with me, but as Expressflight has pointed out this is also a problem elsewhere, with LCY having had major issues over this.
It needs to be said that when EZY tell the poor unfortunates - whose holiday plans are being thrown into disarray - that they are sooooo sorry, but safety is everything in aviation - you can bet your bottom dollar they don't tell them there is a perfectly workable alternative, but it costs the airline a great deal more and plays havoc with the schedule.
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Boils down to operating out of marginal airports. If the summer heat doesn't get you then the fog and a CAT1 ILS will. Easyjet will have taken this into account when deciding a SEN base but passengers hate disruption.
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let's give this theme a bit of rest shall we, it's all getting rather tedious.
Perhaps we could shift the attention to the LTN thread where it has been reported some of the fire exits were blocked when the terminal had to be evacuated a while ago.
Now if true that really is something to be concerned about.
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It's strange that a number of posters in here can't wait to rub their hands with glee at any perceived glitch in the SEN operation. To my knowledge SEN's terminal is not littered with disappointed pax who have been denied boarding, should that be the case EZY would have departed long ago and FR wouldn't have even bothered. Their respective number crunchers will have worked out their performance figures under various met. conditions and deemed them to be commercially viable, so
let's give this theme a bit of rest shall we, it's all getting rather tedious. Perhaps we could shift the attention to the LTN thread where it has been reported some of the fire exits were blocked when the terminal had to be evacuated a while ago.
Now that could be serious.
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If anyone is kicked off their flight then best not to mention it here as this is the good news only thread. It is no good burying ones head in the sand as the subject was raised about easyjet selling seats that they can't fill for technical reasons if it gets too hot. If it happens SEN will be the victim just as much as the passengers so I wouldn't call it anti Southend. As already mentioned would anyone here book a flight to Malaga from Southend in the next couple of days?
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At current prices it would appear a lot of people have..maybe they have a weather forecast built into the pricing algorithm to keep the weight down ��.
Whilst we all seem to be focusing on ezy do the 737`s have similar problems when it’s hot ?
Whilst we all seem to be focusing on ezy do the 737`s have similar problems when it’s hot ?
One of the more depressing features of this thread is the sheer ignorance of the workings of the airline industry displayed by some of those who make the most noise. Some of the preceding posters seem completely unaware that many airlines use a deliberate overbooking policy as part of their normal commercial operation. Such an airline will probably have an overbooking profile for each route based on its operational experience. The aim is that the number of seats overbooked should equal the number of no-shows. In this way revenue is maximised. When as sometimes happens all the pax turn up, then the airline is into offloads rebooking, hotels, EU261, social media even perhaps the mainstream press. Its the commercial risk the airline takes. You may not like it but it is common practice.
To imply that it is only at SEN that you will get bumped off is nonsense. EZY clearly have an overbooking policy (though I have no knowledge as to the details of its workings) that may apply anywhere. This article shows the policy coming unstuck for EZY at other well known London area airports.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...enied-boarding
To imply that it is only at SEN that you will get bumped off is nonsense. EZY clearly have an overbooking policy (though I have no knowledge as to the details of its workings) that may apply anywhere. This article shows the policy coming unstuck for EZY at other well known London area airports.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...enied-boarding
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There is a bit of a difference as overbooking if carried out is by one or two seats only and allows for no shows so I doubt if anyone is routinely kicked off a flight as most flights are not full and those that are will have passengers who have not turned up so allowing for those overbooked to find a seat. What is going to happen is the mass expulsion of passengers due to a weather issue that for Easyjet is unique to Southend and won't happen at Gatwick, Luton and Stansted in the London area. That is assuming the flights are nearly full.
To imply that it is only at SEN that you will get bumped off is nonsense. EZY clearly have an overbooking policy (though I have no knowledge as to the details of its workings) that may apply anywhere. This article shows the policy coming unstuck for EZY at other well known London area airports.
Regarding RYR's SEN Ops, as a guide in normal, but very warm, Summer temperatures they can lift 189 pax for a 3 hour flight with no problems and only after that do they need to be creative with 'packs off' procedures and the like.
Off to SEN now.