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Old 23rd May 2019, 14:52
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Originally Posted by rog747
Drop off charges should be illegal and are disgusting
I think it felt like that when they were first introduced but in reality, if they didn't charge, everyone would be dropping off and clogging up the roads everywhere.
What is disgusting is deliberately splitting people up with a seating algorithm so you have to pay to sit together. I don't care where I sit but, if I'm travelling with my wife, I think it's immoral to split people up in order to extract more money.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 15:56
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They don't charge at LHR - so works OK at one of worlds largest

It all just extortion - seat charges bag charges drop off charges airport levy name mistake charges - Greed and a rip off as we all know it
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Old 23rd May 2019, 16:25
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How are they any different from other charges - car parking, bags, etc?
1999 you would have strongly disagreed with 2019 you on this I bet.
The modern airline business conditions you to accept what was once abhorrent as the new norm, times change.
1999 you would be outraged at paying for seats for example, or flying long haul with no food.
Why not charge for security or access to the terminal building? Anyone who doesn't pay can queue outside for basic security entrance at a side door, all to the same standard as DfT but the experience not so good cos you didn't pony up.

In terms of customer experience, the scores have plummeted if you lack status and don't see these charges outright. If you fly from one of the more marginal UK airports, they REALLY need the revenue stream so they'll milk you for every penny, otherwise they'd do a Blackpool. As for LHR's drop off being free, that's likely to go in part for expansion as the green lobby will be thrown a sop.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 16:35
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1999 me would probably look at how many flights I take and how much I pay in 2019 and say "looks like a good deal." People always forget that bit when they trot out "Greed and a rip off".

Flying now is dirt cheap compared to 1999, so the money has to come from somewhere. If not drop off charges and charging for seats, what would you prefer - higher fares? Any other suggestions, as the public have already voted with their feet on that one.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 19:58
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo
For some, drop offs begin over at McDonalds
Yes i think its 3 hours free parking at the retail park and only a couple of minutes walk to the terminal.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 20:02
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A few diversions accepted this evening due to continuing runway issues at STN. Which just goes to prove length isn't everything.
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Old 24th May 2019, 12:23
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You could call it a rip off. Or just an itemised bill
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Old 24th May 2019, 15:50
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A useful addition to the public transport options between London and SEN commences on 8th June. The Jetlink X1 service will run daily from London Victoria departing at 03:05 and arriving SEN at 04:35, catering for the first wave of morning flight departures, while a SEN departure at 23:40 and arriving London Victoria at 01:15 caters for the late evening arrival wave. The double-decker coach also calls at Embankment, Canning Town and Lakeside. Adult fare is £15 single.

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Old 24th May 2019, 16:36
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A more than useful addition, I reckon.
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Old 25th May 2019, 01:17
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EZY to restart the LYON flights starting in october
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Old 25th May 2019, 13:13
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seems to be some confusion over the LYON flights, SEN destinations page say starting in October,nothing about it from EZY
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Old 25th May 2019, 13:47
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[QUOTE=Skipness One Foxtrot;10478053 As for LHR's drop off being free, that's likely to go in part for expansion as the green lobby will be thrown a sop.[/QUOTE]

How right your words have proved to be...

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a4150576.html

Perhaps £3 doesn't seem so bad.......
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Old 25th May 2019, 21:45
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Thin end of a fat wedge
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Old 28th May 2019, 04:57
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I see Southend has the longest average flight delays of any small airport in the UK during 2018 and in fact its average delay is greater than Heathrow. So why would that be?
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Old 28th May 2019, 05:18
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Stobart punctuality last summer with the E195 problems. A big impact on a relatively small total number of flights at the airport as a whole will produce a nasty headline.
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Old 28th May 2019, 08:01
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Originally Posted by Spanish eyes
I see Southend has the longest average flight delays of any small airport in the UK during 2018 and in fact its average delay is greater than Heathrow. So why would that be?

Any member of the public reading the results of that survey won't be thinking about the size of the airport. They'll just notice which have the least delay and which have the most. They'll see that STN was worst at 25 minutes (as the BBC headline says "London Stansted airport 'worst in UK for delays' ") and LTN second worst at 19 minutes and then, maybe, read down a bit further and find SEN at 15 minutes. As Albert Hall says that poor performance was down to the unreliability of STK's E195s, as I remember well from my own bad experience there on more than one occasion.
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Old 28th May 2019, 08:14
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The piece in the local paper supports Expressflight's point with STN grabbing the wrong kind of headline. No mention of Southend.


https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/176...elays-in-2018/
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Old 28th May 2019, 10:30
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Loganair's Glasgow and Stornoway service started this morning. I see Stornoway not individually listed on LSA departures, presumably as it is via a stop at GLA.
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Old 28th May 2019, 10:56
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Yes, 30 minute stop at GLA but no aircraft change.
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Old 29th May 2019, 07:23
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The Stobart Group Final Results for the year ending 28th February 2019 include a statement that "Connect Airways will identify cost synergies between Stobart Air and Flybe ......... and develop a London connectivity strategy which will involve London Southend Airport." It will be interesting to see what tangible results that produces for SEN, although probably not before Spring 2020 I would suggest.
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