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Yes a few a day but nothing like what they had during the summer, suppose it will all kick in again once the Luton restrictions start again, then with the based RYR starting soon, will space become an issue?
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First B738 pax flight
Luxair B738 LX-LGU should be arriving SEN in the next 30 minutes operating a 'catch-up 'flight for LCY pax delayed by high winds earlier today. This will be the first B738 to carry pax into SEN, the two Luxair flights a couple of years ago arrived empty and operated out full to Pau. The two scheduled evening LUX-LCY-LUX flights have been combined onto the B738 into SEN.
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Luxair B738 LX-LGU should be arriving SEN in the next 30 minutes operating a 'catch-up 'flight for LCY pax delayed by high winds earlier today. This will be the first B738 to carry pax into SEN, the two Luxair flights a couple of years ago arrived empty and operated out full to Pau. The two scheduled evening LUX-LCY-LUX flights have been combined onto the B738 into SEN.
Not sure how many came in on it from LUX
Earlier today a BA Cityflyer flight from Milan Linate diverted to Southend due to bad weather, and the return back to Milan also began in Southend (the aircraft spends Friday and Saturday night in Milan)
A single divert is pretty mundane, but what puzzles me is why a divert like this causes chaos. The E190 ended up landing at Southend just before 8 am. The pax for a 0940 departure fron LCY were checked in, luggage accepted at checkin desks, and only at the LCY gate just before gate-closing time were they told to then go collect their bags from arrivals, wait for a coach to take them to Southend and then end up departing SEN 4 hours after the original LCY departure time or 5h30 after the plane landed at SEN following bad weather
LCY-SEN is about 45 mins to drive. So why does a divert like this which should not be unexpected with winter weather take so long to resolve ? And no, the handling agents wouldn't say anything beyond the catch-all 'operational reasons' ! I don't mean to have a moan - more trying to understand why this all takes so long to be resolved, especially when SEN has ample spare airport capacity
A single divert is pretty mundane, but what puzzles me is why a divert like this causes chaos. The E190 ended up landing at Southend just before 8 am. The pax for a 0940 departure fron LCY were checked in, luggage accepted at checkin desks, and only at the LCY gate just before gate-closing time were they told to then go collect their bags from arrivals, wait for a coach to take them to Southend and then end up departing SEN 4 hours after the original LCY departure time or 5h30 after the plane landed at SEN following bad weather
LCY-SEN is about 45 mins to drive. So why does a divert like this which should not be unexpected with winter weather take so long to resolve ? And no, the handling agents wouldn't say anything beyond the catch-all 'operational reasons' ! I don't mean to have a moan - more trying to understand why this all takes so long to be resolved, especially when SEN has ample spare airport capacity
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On a similar note I was at STN today where a Swiss turned up. It was on the ground a good couple of hours so I guessed they were bringing the pax over, but no it seemed to me to depart empty. Surely it could have headed back immediately and not unnecessarily delayed later flights (if it was due to make any).
Perhaps the issue isn’t the capacity of SEN or the ease in which pax could theoretically be transferred, but one of waiting on ops decisions.
The Swiss couldn’t have made it back to LCY because it was too late. Perhaps BA were waiting to see if conditions improved. Perhaps the aircraft being displaced necessitated bringing in a new crew. Perhaps they couldn’t source a coach in good time. No point sending pax by train because it’s rail replacement.
Perhaps the issue isn’t the capacity of SEN or the ease in which pax could theoretically be transferred, but one of waiting on ops decisions.
The Swiss couldn’t have made it back to LCY because it was too late. Perhaps BA were waiting to see if conditions improved. Perhaps the aircraft being displaced necessitated bringing in a new crew. Perhaps they couldn’t source a coach in good time. No point sending pax by train because it’s rail replacement.
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Earlier today a BA Cityflyer flight from Milan Linate diverted to Southend due to bad weather, and the return back to Milan also began in Southend (the aircraft spends Friday and Saturday night in Milan)
A single divert is pretty mundane, but what puzzles me is why a divert like this causes chaos. The E190 ended up landing at Southend just before 8 am. The pax for a 0940 departure fron LCY were checked in, luggage accepted at checkin desks, and only at the LCY gate just before gate-closing time were they told to then go collect their bags from arrivals, wait for a coach to take them to Southend and then end up departing SEN 4 hours after the original LCY departure time or 5h30 after the plane landed at SEN following bad weather
LCY-SEN is about 45 mins to drive. So why does a divert like this which should not be unexpected with winter weather take so long to resolve ? And no, the handling agents wouldn't say anything beyond the catch-all 'operational reasons' ! I don't mean to have a moan - more trying to understand why this all takes so long to be resolved, especially when SEN has ample spare airport capacity
A single divert is pretty mundane, but what puzzles me is why a divert like this causes chaos. The E190 ended up landing at Southend just before 8 am. The pax for a 0940 departure fron LCY were checked in, luggage accepted at checkin desks, and only at the LCY gate just before gate-closing time were they told to then go collect their bags from arrivals, wait for a coach to take them to Southend and then end up departing SEN 4 hours after the original LCY departure time or 5h30 after the plane landed at SEN following bad weather
LCY-SEN is about 45 mins to drive. So why does a divert like this which should not be unexpected with winter weather take so long to resolve ? And no, the handling agents wouldn't say anything beyond the catch-all 'operational reasons' ! I don't mean to have a moan - more trying to understand why this all takes so long to be resolved, especially when SEN has ample spare airport capacity
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On a similar note I was at STN today where a Swiss turned up. It was on the ground a good couple of hours so I guessed they were bringing the pax over, but no it seemed to me to depart empty. Surely it could have headed back immediately and not unnecessarily delayed later flights (if it was due to make any).
Perhaps the issue isn’t the capacity of SEN or the ease in which pax could theoretically be transferred, but one of waiting on ops decisions.
The Swiss couldn’t have made it back to LCY because it was too late. Perhaps BA were waiting to see if conditions improved. Perhaps the aircraft being displaced necessitated bringing in a new crew. Perhaps they couldn’t source a coach in good time. No point sending pax by train because it’s rail replacement.
Perhaps the issue isn’t the capacity of SEN or the ease in which pax could theoretically be transferred, but one of waiting on ops decisions.
The Swiss couldn’t have made it back to LCY because it was too late. Perhaps BA were waiting to see if conditions improved. Perhaps the aircraft being displaced necessitated bringing in a new crew. Perhaps they couldn’t source a coach in good time. No point sending pax by train because it’s rail replacement.
Maybe Swiss ops were waiting on a window of opportunity to operate the aircraft to LCY for the return or maybe the crew on it were due to get off and night stop in LCY and there was a new crew waiting in LCY to take over so they would have had to get transport between airports. There are multiple reasons including ramp handling - do swiss have a handling contract at SEN - if not then everything needs prepayment or organised otherwise - there could have been a slot departure restriction - multitude of possible causes as to why it sat on the ground for a few hours and then operated back empty.
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As a note...
SWR A220 departed STN to ZRH...& as a further note over numerous SWR diverts in the past they have always appeared to depart back to Switzerland & not position to LCY later.
Swiss efficiency?
SWR A220 departed STN to ZRH...& as a further note over numerous SWR diverts in the past they have always appeared to depart back to Switzerland & not position to LCY later.
Swiss efficiency?
Luxair seem to share the same philosophy as Swiss in that their fairly frequent LCY diversions to SEN are turned round very quickly and depart empty to LUX. This actually benefits SEN operationally as it frees up stands for further diversions if needed.
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As I clearly said, getting back to LCY wasn’t an option as it was too late for the curfew. I also doubt they were awaiting crew as Swiss don’t night stop, particularly not on a Saturday.
If you are talking about Swiss they always choose STN as their LCY diversion airport. Nothing to do with SEN handling capability.
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Passenger numbers for DECEMBER were just short of 1.1/2 million compaired to DEC 2017 ,That's pretty dam good...(PAX NUMBERS UP AIRCRAFT MOVEMENTS DOWN) more bums on seats on less planes
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