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Old 8th Aug 2018, 18:40
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Has anyone used the lounge at SEN since it was voted the worst in Britain? I've have a flight out of SEN in a couple of days and not keen on giving the lounge £20 if nothing has improved . At the same time I don't want to suffer queues downstairs as I understand the concessions are still under construction/refurbishment .
Not me, but if you look on the website it's now highlighted and it appears to have been "tarted up" Give us your view if you try. I'm flying from SEN last week August and am interested in giving it a go.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 19:09
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Originally Posted by asdf1234
Has anyone used the lounge at SEN since it was voted the worst in Britain? I've have a flight out of SEN in a couple of days and not keen on giving the lounge £20 if nothing has improved . At the same time I don't want to suffer queues downstairs as I understand the concessions are still under construction/refurbishment .
I flew out from SEN two weeks ago and Costas coffee shop was not open, but recent promotional publicity shows it is now open. There are other options for food and drinks. No problems I think.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 20:54
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You don’t really gain much from a lounge at SEN to be honest. Mostly the place isn’t busy enough to warrant “getting away from it all”, and if you want to fork out a bit for something a bit more plush just go to Bourgee. Even in the morning rush Bourgee seems more relaxed as most people flock to the bar or queue up at the cafe.
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
You don’t really gain much from a lounge at SEN to be honest. Mostly the place isn’t busy enough to warrant “getting away from it all”, and if you want to fork out a bit for something a bit more plush just go to Bourgee. Even in the morning rush Bourgee seems more relaxed as most people flock to the bar or queue up at the cafe.
I have used Bourgee before and was distinctly unimpressed. It was the Bourgee experience that pushed me to the lounge but my last visit there was underwhelming. Maybe the trick is to arrive "Just on Time" and proceed directly to boarding.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 06:42
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Originally Posted by asdf1234
I have used Bourgee before and was distinctly unimpressed. It was the Bourgee experience that pushed me to the lounge but my last visit there was underwhelming. Maybe the trick is to arrive "Just on Time" and proceed directly to boarding.
Yep, I'd recomend that option. The lounge is just not on par with how you'd expect a lounge. One thing I've generally noticed about the lounge, the main entrance doors are generally swung wide open as you pass them heading to the escalator towards the gates. You can see straight in and hear all the chatter and hussle of people at the security area when you are within the lounge. It could do with the airport management getting an interior designer in to redesign it and pimp it up. It's underused as it stands right now and could generate additional income if they had the lounge ambience and market promotion pitched much better.

It's something the departures area is going to increasingly require especially as the airport becomes increasingly busy when likes of Ryanair come to SEN and pax volumes begin to really ratchet upwards.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 08:14
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EasyJet new route

SEN-BUD from Nov

Not sure if this has been mentioned before
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo
Yep, I'd recomend that option. The lounge is just not on par with how you'd expect a lounge. One thing I've generally noticed about the lounge, the main entrance doors are generally swung wide open as you pass them heading to the escalator towards the gates. You can see straight in and hear all the chatter and hussle of people at the security area when you are within the lounge. It could do with the airport management getting an interior designer in to redesign it and pimp it up. It's underused as it stands right now and could generate additional income if they had the lounge ambience and market promotion pitched much better.

It's something the departures area is going to increasingly require especially as the airport becomes increasingly busy when likes of Ryanair come to SEN and pax volumes begin to really ratchet upwards.
Oh god no - they might use the same firm that did the exec jet area!
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 08:24
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Originally Posted by Falcon666
EasyJet new route

SEN-BUD from Nov

Not sure if this has been mentioned before
Once again in competition with an existing route

But, on FlyBe site, book SEN-BUD-SEN on Nov 28, return 30, the fare is 1540 euros return 😮
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Originally Posted by tophat27dt
Once again in competition with an existing route

But, on FlyBe site, book SEN-BUD-SEN on Nov 28, return 30, the fare is 1540 euros return 😮
Wasn't the whole point of the Stobart ATR operation to prove that the routes were viable, and to attract larger airlines on to them?
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Wasn't the whole point of the Stobart ATR operation to prove that the routes were viable, and to attract larger airlines on to them?
I have always thought so, YES.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 09:37
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Wasn't the whole point of the Stobart ATR operation to prove that the routes were viable, and to attract larger airlines on to them?
That's exactly right and it does seem to be working.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 09:48
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I suspect Stobart will announce new routes soon. EDI, BHD, and GCI I reckon. As well as adjusting to EZY they will have to drop / severely scale back DUB next year.

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Originally Posted by tophat27dt
Once again in competition with an existing route

But, on FlyBe site, book SEN-BUD-SEN on Nov 28, return 30, the fare is 1540 euros return 😮
Fake news. Those are 2-stop flights via MAN and CDG. Returns are circa £80 on the days the non-stop operates.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 10:19
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
I suspect Stobart will announce new routes soon. EDI, BHD, and GCI I reckon. As well as adjusting to EZY they will have to drop / severely scale back DUB next year.
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The problem with SEN-EDI & BHD is will Flybe agree to that under the terms of the franchise agreement with Stobart Air? I doubt it as they would compete with Flybe's existing flights from LCY to those destinations.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 10:43
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My own opinion is the Flybe/stobart franchise is dying fast as EZY and Ryanair take on same routes. In the future Stobart will concentrate their ATR fleet on domestics along with E95 on high load routes and the remainder will be utilised for ACMI work!
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Maybe, but while EZY/FR serve the likes of Prague, Milan and Budapest at fairly low frequency I think Stobart still has a future. BUD for example operates Tue, Thu, Sat against EZY on Mon and Fri. So there’s now better flexibility. Stobart’s Milan goes to Malpensa far off the the west and near Como, Lugano and Maggiore whereas Ryanair goes to Bergamo far off to the east and near Garda.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 12:00
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1


Fake news. Those are 2-stop flights via MAN and CDG. Returns are circa £80 on the days the non-stop operates.
How ridiculous. I can buy a round-the-world ticket for that price. I didn't notice the schedule those days in detail but who would buy it?
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I very much expect to seeSEN-NQY announced for 2019 soon on the ATR. BE have just dropped STN so it’s leaving a gap that filled 20,000 seats in summer 17

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Old 9th Aug 2018, 20:13
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I hope you're right CS. The idea of my favourite UK hotel - The Headland, overlooking the rocky outcrop at the north end of Fistral Bay - once again less than an hour's flight from SEN, fills my heart with joy.

From the hopeless stagnation of a couple of years ago, even the fiercest critics of Stobart seem to accept that the airport is very much on the up, and I for one cannot wait to discover what next year may bring.

Yes, there are serious reasons for criticism - not least the struggles of Stobart Air to deliver their timetable - but who can now doubt that the airport has s bright future, and isn't that a minor miracle?
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Good omens abound

It seems the money invested (losses accrued) in Stobart running their own airline from their own airport is paying dividends. They prove the route, and take the corresponding start-up losses, and then a bigger carrier comes in and takes a fully developed route for free . Interim results due out 3rd week of October. Most probably too early to show a profit from aviation activity but a reduction in the losses will signal a brighter future.
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