Southend-2

[ericlday]

Wrong year....2019 !!!!

[tophat27dt]

Originally Posted by SEN Observer

Have I missed something? Are Carlisle flights not now starting in September?

Not till April 2019 earliest due to ATC staffing problems.

[SEN Observer]

Thank you tophat for the information. I must definitely have missed something somewhere as I seem to have had it in mind that when June this year was abandoned as the start date it was said that the three month delay would be enough time for the necessary steps to be taken. Obviously a worse situation than I understood it to be and the company initially recognised.

[AirportPlanner1]

Ever upwards on the MAN route it seems, people were still getting off it (the 18:00 arrival) when I reached my car in car park 2.

[Planespeaking]

Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1

Ever upwards on the MAN route it seems, people were still getting off it (the 18:00 arrival) when I reached my car in car park 2.

Am I missing something, what are you trying to convey?

[Barling Magna]

Originally Posted by Planespeaking

Am I missing something, what are you trying to convey?

Well, er, it seems straightforward enough i.e. a good passenger load on that particular rotation? Or am I missing something too?

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by tophat27dt

Not till April 2019 earliest due to ATC staffing problems.

Not just ATC staffing issues:

Kate Willard, head of corporate projects at Stobart Group, said: “We know how much the launch of commercial flights at the airport means for Cumbria, the south of Scotland, and the Lake District. We have been working around the clock and physically we are ready. But it is extremely important that this major project, which will connect the region to the tourism and business hubs of London, Dublin and Belfast, is safe and operationally compliant so as to be sustainable in the long term. This requires both a full complement of trained and experienced operational staff being in place from commencement – to deliver a sustainable flight timetable – and also an infrastructure which fully meets regulatory requirements."

[AirportPlanner1]

Originally Posted by Barling Magna

Well, er, it seems straightforward enough i.e. a good passenger load on that particular rotation? Or am I missing something too?

I’d say generally on the up, that is my point. The route had a lot of vocal doubters when it was announced including myself. But then I got a new job which necessitated a lot of travel to Manchester, and I’ve ended up using it quite a bit.

Aside from a blip a couple of weeks back counciding with an England World Cup match when there were just 10 of us, my recent loads in both directions have been between 35-50. While this isn’t setting the world alight, it’s a lot better than people expected and far better than I experienced in the earlier days when less than 10 was common and more than 25 rare.

The other interesting thing is people are connecting through SEN, including it seems MAN-SEN-GLA. Why you’d do that I’m not sure, but there you go.

That is anecdotal evidence and feedback that may be of interest to some on here, if it doesn’t bother you then just move on.

[DC3 Dave]

I'm told Paul Gascoigne flew from SEN to Moscow as a guest of the FA in the last couple of days. I wonder what he made of the inglenook fireplace. Bet he's a laugh a minute on a small jet. "Wae aye man, shift yourself and let me have a go at those controls!"

[tophat27dt]

Originally Posted by DC3 Dave

I'm told Paul Gascoigne flew from SEN to Moscow as a guest of the FA in the last couple of days. I wonder what he made of the inglenook fireplace. Bet he's a laugh a minute on a small jet. "Wae aye man, shift yourself and let me have a go at those controls!"

More likely "pour me a large one, mate"

[tophat27dt]

Two late LCY diversions arrived after 2300 and 5 bizjets due during the night continue to keep SEN interesting at night (in the past three nights have been a B757, two B737s and an exec A320 amongst the smaller visitors.). One minus point this evening was that the FlyBe Manchester was cancelled but I don't know why.

[southender]

Apparently eleven biz jets on the apron early this morning, a fair number of which arrived from Russia. I would imagine activity will reduce a bit now the World Cup is over.

[Expressflight]

Originally Posted by southender

Apparently eleven biz jets on the apron early this morning, a fair number of which arrived from Russia. I would imagine activity will reduce a bit now the World Cup is over.

I think there were ten overnight bizjet arrivals plus two LCY inbounds re-routed to SEN due to very late running. A couple of the bizjets departed during the night.

[runwayman]

Announced today Adria to operate 3 x a week to Paderborn starting this winter

[tophat27dt]

Originally Posted by runwayman

Announced today Adria to operate 3 x a week to Paderborn starting this winter

Interesting one, talked about last year, but what is there to do in or near Paderborn?

[DC3 Dave]

The world's largest computer museum apparently.

Southend Airport announces new route to Paderborn-Lippstadt, Germany | Echo

[inOban]

Is there still a military base?

[SEN Observer]

The SEN website now shows Carlisle as commencing spring 2019. They have also got the Ryanair destinations showing. If only Paderborn were showing we could say they were completely up to date!!

[mikkie4]

mini break in paderborn 28 oct till 1st nov 248 euro rtn inc tax ...is that cheap or expencive?

[AirportPlanner1]

I noticed that. I hope it’s just a glitch while it’s being loaded in the system because they won’t sell many seats at that price. It is quite isolated, about 90 mins to Hannover and Dortmund/2 hours to Dusseldorf/2.5 hours to Frankfurt, but even so it’s too high.

i think fares of circa €49 each way will come online, at least I hope so.