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Old 15th Jun 2018, 21:21
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I think it’s quite telling they’ve chosen some routes that aren’t served from STN, and that can’t be served from overseas because they have no or limited operations there. This to me shouts lack of capacity. For all the talk of playing STN off against other airports, the reality is that if they did move aircraft 4,5 and 6 over the vacant slots and stands would be snapped up by Jet2, Primera or someone else.

This seems more like LTN mk II in terms of route mix, somewhere else of course they can’t expand at because there’s no capacity.

I’m not saying individual routes won’t shift around as has been seen between STN and LTN - Copenhagen and Malta for example started out at the latter - but I don’t imminently see the aircraft moving over
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Old 15th Jun 2018, 21:24
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The Ryanair booking system currently shows a 195 seater aircraft, so surely that’s the 737 MAX 200?
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Old 15th Jun 2018, 21:32
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Originally Posted by tws123
The Ryanair booking system currently shows a 195 seater aircraft, so surely that’s the 737 MAX 200?
It’s 189 seats since there is no row 13. A standard 738.
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Originally Posted by 1sky


It’s 189 seats since there is no row 13. A standard 738.
If true, so much for the statements previously saying B738 can't operate from SEN with 188 pax and luggage.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 07:18
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Quite an impressive photo taken this morning of SEN's apron and posted on Southend Airport Movement and Operations facebook page. It would seem the bizjet traffic is building rapidly and the investment made in the Stobart Jet Centre could be
paying dividends.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 07:41
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Originally Posted by Planespeaking
Quite an impressive photo taken this morning of SEN's apron and posted on Southend Airport Movement and Operations facebook page. It would seem the bizjet traffic is building rapidly and the investment made in the Stobart Jet Centre could be
paying dividends.
Yep. I was on the redeye to DUB this morning and couldn't help but notice how packed the ramp was with numerous bizjets. The ramp' were crazy busy with EZY, STOB and Flybe too.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 08:14
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Originally Posted by fatmed
ezpress flight, you are unusually quiet on this development. You OK ? ��
Fine thanks but I've been in Dublin all week.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 08:26
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
Fine thanks but I've been in Dublin all week.
Welcome back! Lots happening this week.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 11:16
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Originally Posted by Musket90
On the runway grooving, the present surface is BBA which is designed to be ungrooved, so to groove it would mean another resurface with different mix which given the costs very unlikely.
Actually JER had a BBA surface laid which they decided to have grooved. This seems to have worked OK but I've heard suggestions that groove wear is more of a problem with BBA. Having said that I would expect SEN to re-profile the runway surface as TCAS FAN suggests and to groove the new surface. Otherwise I think that even the 737 MAX 200 would be excessively payload limited in its SEN operations. I cannot see any way that the existing 738 could be commercially viable at SEN, grooved runway or not.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 11:17
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Originally Posted by tophat27dt
If true, so much for the statements previously saying B738 can't operate from SEN with 188 pax and luggage.
Thats going to depend on many other variables on the day mainly fuel load. All the new RYR deliveries for the last few months are 'SFP' 738s which give landing and takeoff performance improvements over the standard 'NG', potentially in the region of several tonnes on short runways with no terrain in the climb out.

In general though the runway is short and narrow which will reduce crosswind limits and there is no way any 737, NG or Max can take off at anywhere near MTOW due to the length.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 14:36
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Bizjets

Originally Posted by mik3bravo
Yep. I was on the redeye to DUB this morning and couldn't help but notice how packed the ramp was with numerous bizjets. The ramp' were crazy busy with EZY, STOB and Flybe too.
The only reason there are so many biz jets at the moment are that Luton & Stansted have reached their night quotas between June-September it will probably go back to the normal level from October.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 14:46
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Originally Posted by runwayman
The only reason there are so many biz jets at the moment are that Luton & Stansted have reached their night quotas between June-September it will probably go back to the normal level from October.
Possibly , but aren't the operators lucky SEN has the capacity for a London airport arrival and departure., otherwise it would be London's loss and a gain for Paris, Frankfurt or Amsterdam.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 14:52
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Runwayman,

Let’s enjoy it until then.

With arrivals last night from Dubai, Los Angeles and Seattle, amongst others, there’s a very international feel about the place at the moment. The apron this morning was very impressive.

Stobart must be pleased with recent events.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 15:01
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Originally Posted by southender
Runwayman,

Let’s enjoy it until then.

With arrivals last night from Dubai, Los Angeles and Seattle, amongst others, there’s a very international feel about the place at the moment. The apron this morning was very impressive.

Stobart must be pleased with recent events.
Absolutely. All good things might come to an end but enjoy them while you can.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 15:22
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Good times

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Absolutely. All good things might come to an end but enjoy them while you can.
Yes indeed DT we are used to that here as you well know!
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 15:28
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Originally Posted by runwayman
Yes indeed DT we are used to that here as you well know!
Yes I know. Hopefully you will pick up a few new customers who will make return visits. For the time being, I am interested to see what aircraft and payloads RYR will operate, and if that will affect any of the current flights by other operators. Take care.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 15:49
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Surely they must be using the SFP variant?
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 16:00
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Without doubt I would say.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 16:08
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
Without doubt I would say.
Welcome back Eflight your absence has been noted and your bonus points have been deducted... meanwhile back at SEN!!
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 16:26
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Originally Posted by Barling Magna
Surely they must be using the SFP variant?
Not all of the "experts" here seem to agree on this one!
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