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Well the press release says fifteen. Mind you, there only appear to be eight on the lower photo: https://www.lanouvellerepublique.fr/...mier-decollage
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8/10/15 on the inaugural flight from Chateauroux? Whatever the number, you wouldn't think the Secretary of State for Transport would clear his diary to be there. And no PR release regarding his visit in the local press. Sounds like an announcement coming early next week to me.
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The transport minister has a remarkable knack of going somewhere totally different to when he would be the centre of attention to a news story, i.e. yesterday a report regarding Govia Thameslink, Southern on the shambolic way it is being run especially over the last two years plus the franchise railway system. So let's troll off to Southend Airport away from the flak. Of course, just remembered a big supporter of our PM, enough said.
In view of recent remarks I hesitate to post this but at the end of the Anna Aero news story linked previously, Glyn Jones is quoted as saying:
"This is just the start, we've more big plans for 2018 in the pipeline."
Might be something brewing or might be nothing but fluff, though no way of knowing which.
"This is just the start, we've more big plans for 2018 in the pipeline."
Might be something brewing or might be nothing but fluff, though no way of knowing which.
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Still, as you often advise us, "Wait and see".
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They do just pop in for a chat if there is an election. As it happens, there is one this coming Thursday.
This will have zero to do with the route launch. Pure coincidence.
This will have zero to do with the route launch. Pure coincidence.
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I had to laugh at my own thoughts when I woke up this morning. I envisaged dozens of people with binoculars all in different strategic positions counting the number of passengers in and out on the Chatearoux flight today. Then I assume we will need to calculate an average figure once all the reports are in! I really must get out more! Lol.
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I had to laugh at my own thoughts when I woke up this morning. I envisaged dozens of people with binoculars all in different strategic positions counting the number of passengers in and out on the Chatearoux flight today. Then I assume we will need to calculate an average figure once all the reports are in! I really must get out more! Lol.
Is Southend that desperate that the difference between one set of figures and another is that critical?
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London Southend is currently the fastest growing London airport and surpassed the one million passenger milestone in 2017
Actual passenger 12 months growth figures from Feb 2017 to Feb 2018:
Heathow 2.1 million
Gatwick 1.93 million
Stansted 1.62 million
Luton 1.17 million
Southend 253,000
As can be seen Southend by a long way is still actually London's worst performing airport for year on year actual growth and only picked up around 25% of the extra passengers the next worst performing airport did. At the same time but starting from a low figure Southend is also the fastest growing London Airport. That title will remain until Oxford picks up a couple of extra passengers as at the moment that airport registers zero.
So today we celebrate the rise of Southend and rightly so but we all have to see the bigger picture than is being pumped out by the spin doctors.
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Pax growth
I have to agree with Ltnman. If there was additional demand of 6m pax last year why did Southend not hoover this lot up? They have been telling everyone for years now that they are not slot restricted, they offer a better pax experience and they have unconstrained capacity to play with. And despite all of this 6m pax went to one of the overcrowded capacity constrained airports instead of Southend. There is something seriously wrong with how the airport is approaching this.
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[QUOTE There is something seriously wrong with how the airport is approaching this. QUOTE]
That may well be true, but let's remember that SEN's runway is restricted. How many of those additional passengers could have come to SEN anyway?
I am surprised that SEN hasn't attracted more foreign airlines to use it as a gateway to London in the way that it used to be so many decades ago when LTU, Braathens, Martinair, SABENA, Transair, Fred Olsen, Schreiner and many more filled the apron. Perhaps the new Air Malta service will be the straw in the wind which raises SEN's profile in Europe.....
That may well be true, but let's remember that SEN's runway is restricted. How many of those additional passengers could have come to SEN anyway?
I am surprised that SEN hasn't attracted more foreign airlines to use it as a gateway to London in the way that it used to be so many decades ago when LTU, Braathens, Martinair, SABENA, Transair, Fred Olsen, Schreiner and many more filled the apron. Perhaps the new Air Malta service will be the straw in the wind which raises SEN's profile in Europe.....
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As I've said before the majority of pax listed as growth at London airports would have been on aircraft that cannot operate from SEN. Potential is limited by this and you could argue that growth has been remarkable against this background.
However, most of the 2018 growth is organic. So, I guess the arguments will continue with validity from many perspectives.
However, most of the 2018 growth is organic. So, I guess the arguments will continue with validity from many perspectives.
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Let's put this into perspective. The additional passengers at london's airports is not necessarily additional flights or routes, and is made up of many factors.
For example, If the average load factor on flights at Heathrow increases by just 2%, which with a buoyant economy and increases competition, is quite possible, then that translates to an additional 1.5 million passengers a year through Heathrow.
And this is wihout any additional flights.
Likewise if BA upgrade a load of 767 routes onto the 773 /747/ A380 you get bit increases in actual passengers, same with upscaling the A319 to the A320 and BA's seat intensification of the narrow body fleet.
With auch a large existing capacity base, these numbers translate into big passenger number increases
then add this effect up for Gatwick Luton and Stansted and you see that actually the efforts by Southend are in fact substantial and should be applauded, especially as Southend does not have much to start with so all growth in effect comes from the airports efforts in adding new routes and airlines etc.
I maintain they have done an excellent job, and continue to do so and don't deserve the constant management bashing they seem to get on this forum
For example, If the average load factor on flights at Heathrow increases by just 2%, which with a buoyant economy and increases competition, is quite possible, then that translates to an additional 1.5 million passengers a year through Heathrow.
And this is wihout any additional flights.
Likewise if BA upgrade a load of 767 routes onto the 773 /747/ A380 you get bit increases in actual passengers, same with upscaling the A319 to the A320 and BA's seat intensification of the narrow body fleet.
With auch a large existing capacity base, these numbers translate into big passenger number increases
then add this effect up for Gatwick Luton and Stansted and you see that actually the efforts by Southend are in fact substantial and should be applauded, especially as Southend does not have much to start with so all growth in effect comes from the airports efforts in adding new routes and airlines etc.
I maintain they have done an excellent job, and continue to do so and don't deserve the constant management bashing they seem to get on this forum