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Old 24th Apr 2018, 21:14
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mikkie4

You'll find the answer around an hour and a quarters drive from Southend Airport (traffic permitting). In a place with a huge orange hangar. Another airline had attractive slots there which became available. The airline you want the name of considered the opportunity to increase their business at this place with the huge orange hangar was not one they were going to pass on even if plans may (or may not have been - I really don't know) at the advanced stage elsewhere.

GEE! You must know who it is by now.
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Originally Posted by mikkie4
please tell ..what was the airline
Hush hush.....it's secret!
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Old 24th Apr 2018, 21:35
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Well if it was Easyjet they did not pick up the Monarch slots as they were taken by Wizz and I find it hard to believe it was Wizz when they have cut capacity from many UK airports. All Southend would do is dilute their Luton passenger base when Brexit brings its own issues.
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I think airlines of any significance explore all viable options in some detail. So if an operator sits down and thrashes out agreement on a few key matters, maybe carry out technical assesments, this only means the airport keeps itself in the frame as a possible - no more than that.

Of course, if you're talking about an airport where key slots are as rare as hen's teeth, the balance of power shifts. But SEN isn't in that catagory.

​I think it's fair to say the Monarch situation hasn't helped SEN, neither has Brexit (some say). But I don't think you can conclude that SEN would have announced another major operator by now if those events had not happened.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 09:45
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Well if it was Easyjet they did not pick up the Monarch slots as they were taken by Wizz and I find it hard to believe it was Wizz when they have cut capacity from many UK airports. All Southend would do is dilute their Luton passenger base when Brexit brings its own issues.
Does that leave Norwegian then?
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 10:22
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So Stobart decided to expand their underutilised airport on the basis of a discussion with Big Orange (or whoever) before an agreement was even signed? How many times will they demostrate the “build it and they’ll come” model isn’t working?
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 10:35
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Seems like a good idea to me. You only have to look at what has happened in Bedfordshire to see they have got caught out big time. Southend is ready and waiting with no pain for its passengers.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 10:47
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May I suggest it is time for an end to uninformed speculation about an event that failed to materialise over six months ago ?

Its clear enough to me that some of the recent posters have no idea of what they are talking about.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 10:49
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To be fair a lot of the work carried out was essential repair, such as replacing taxiway bravo which was falling apart. Choosing to improve / upgrade at the same time seems like a good idea to me.

Spending your money on infrastructure instead of using it to support your dividend works for me.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 10:55
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Isn't it a bit early to say it's not working?

It's also too early to say it has worked; I'd feel more comfortable saying that if they weren't operating so many of the flights themselves, and if they had survived an oil price shock.

But... it seems to be going OK so far...
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 10:56
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
To be fair a lot of the work carried out was essential repair, such as replacing taxiway bravo which was falling apart. Choosing to improve / upgrade at the same time seems like a good idea to me.

Spending your money on infrastructure instead of using it to support your dividend works for me.
Fair comment, you're right, but perhaps utilising your existing infrastructure to support the dividend is even more important.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 11:33
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Originally Posted by flight_mode
So Stobart decided to expand their underutilised airport on the basis of a discussion with Big Orange (or whoever) before an agreement was even signed? How many times will they demostrate the “build it and they’ll come” model isn’t working?
Ltnman is very generous with his comments. STN, LCY and even LGW were very underused at the beginning of their operation. Those airports were built and airlines did come, in the case of LCY it took several years and false dawns before it became established.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 11:36
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
​I think it's fair to say the Monarch situation hasn't helped SEN, neither has Brexit (some say). But I don't think you can conclude that SEN would have announced another major operator by now if those events had not happened.
You can if you know the full story.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 11:43
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
You can if you know the full story.
There you go! So, even if I didn't have a clue what I was talking about as I think was suggested, I've ended up better informed.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 14:38
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I assume Flightradar24 is telling porkies and a TUI B757 from Malaga hasn't landed at SEN rather than LGW in the last 45 minutes or so?
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 17:10
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TUI flight

It did land at Gatwick.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 20:17
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Originally Posted by Planespeaking

Ltnman is very generous with his comments. STN, LCY and even LGW were very underused at the beginning of their operation. Those airports were built and airlines did come, in the case of LCY it took several years and false dawns before it became established.
LGW expanded from 1976 onwards with major development of it's terminal and the replacement of the original Pier 2 to accommodate the new generation of widebodies.

HM Government and the BAA wanted to expand LGW as it at the time the airport was seeing considerable increased passenger numbers as London's second major airport.

In 1977 LHR was closed to all new airlines and was seen as full, LGW took up the mantle with ever increasing airlines starting flights with passenger numbers growing.

That was the reason for LGW huge expansion and the airport was already seeing 5 million passengers in 1977.
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 05:30
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Chateauroux

I see there is an arrival on the board from Chateauroux today but no departure flight
​​​​​​flight. Oddly enough there is no flight showing on the Chateauroux departure board to SEN so is this merely a proving flight or perhaps a meeting with Stobart?
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 08:17
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IG-AVION

Originally Posted by tophat27dt
I see there is an arrival on the board from Chateauroux today but no departure flight
​​​​​​flight. Oddly enough there is no flight showing on the Chateauroux departure board to SEN so is this merely a proving flight or perhaps a meeting with Stobart?
Supposed to be ferrying out empty to Hannover
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 08:38
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The late Winter 2018/19 timetable released by EZY this morning fills in some of the spare slots on the 4th SEN-based aircraft. The whole programme seems to be operated using based aircraft only.
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