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The new Flybe/Stobart routes will need to improve a great deal.
During November, and I don't have the exact number of sectors they flew so I guessed them, the Manchester flights produced 3539 pax / 164 sectors = average load 21; the Glasgow 3023 pax/102 sectors = 30, and the Dublin 8620/164 = 52.
Does anybody with more knowledge know what the breakeven loads are on the E195 and ATR72, although I realise fares are probably in promotion mode as start-ups.
Please correct me if my figures above are wildly inaccurate.
During November, and I don't have the exact number of sectors they flew so I guessed them, the Manchester flights produced 3539 pax / 164 sectors = average load 21; the Glasgow 3023 pax/102 sectors = 30, and the Dublin 8620/164 = 52.
Does anybody with more knowledge know what the breakeven loads are on the E195 and ATR72, although I realise fares are probably in promotion mode as start-ups.
Please correct me if my figures above are wildly inaccurate.
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MAN was more like 23 per flight - 22.7 (32.4%)
For info, figures for today's flights are as follows:
48/48
27/47
15/39
GLA was 39.7 (33.7%). For me this looks the weakest.
DUB was 67.3 (57%) so not bad at all.
For info, figures for today's flights are as follows:
48/48
27/47
15/39
GLA was 39.7 (33.7%). For me this looks the weakest.
DUB was 67.3 (57%) so not bad at all.
The above is what I actually said a couple of weeks ago so 8,620 for DUB in November is reasonable in my opinion. When the route was operated previously it proved quite seasonal in terms of demand so I would be looking for 12,000 per month next summer.
tophat27dt
The numbers aren't as low as that as you've over estimated the number of flights. I calculate a 58% load factor on DUB, 35% on GLA and 32% on MAN. While there's some work to do on GLA it's perhaps a slightly better number than I would have predicted. I assume SEN-MAN was launched partly to provide a through feed onto Flybe's extensive onward network; hence the 3 x daily schedule. If those connecting flight numbers don't meet expectations perhaps it might become the 2 x daily operation that it already is for most of January.
Last edited by Expressflight; 26th Dec 2017 at 10:41. Reason: slight amendment to figures
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Was on BE6257 Boxing Day for a 1830 departure to DUB. Push back +20 minutes from stand, though made up time enroute. Turbulent cruise as we transitioned weather which subsequently dumped snow in the UK.
91 pax on board.
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In April I will be flying GRQ - SEN - DUB, my very first transfer at Southend! I'm very curious about the transfer services at Southend. I have also been to Southend last year. At that time it was not possible to make an intentional transfer, Stobart/Flybe did not offer transfers back in the days.
But times have changed! Is it possible to go directly to the airside departure hall nowadays or do I have to go through security again?
But times have changed! Is it possible to go directly to the airside departure hall nowadays or do I have to go through security again?
November stats:
Amsterdam 16,647 17,878 -6.9%
Dublin 8,620
Alicante 6,948 6,874 1.1%
Malaga 3,557 3,808 -6.6%
Prague 3,390
Rennes 3,198 3,372 -5.2%
Malta 2,903
Faro 2,892 2,989 -3.25
Arrecife 2,655 2,262 17.4%
Tenerife 2,645 2,769 -4.5%
Paris 2,021 3,133 -35.5%
Cologne 1,962
Groningen 1,899 2,112 -10.1%
Barcelona 1,874 1,830 2.4%
Budapest 1,140
Vienna 991
Lyon 515
Caen 0 794 -100.0%
Palma 0 378 -100.0%
Las palmas 0 1,862 -100.0%
Glasgow 3,023
Manchester 3,549
Amsterdam 16,647 17,878 -6.9%
Dublin 8,620
Alicante 6,948 6,874 1.1%
Malaga 3,557 3,808 -6.6%
Prague 3,390
Rennes 3,198 3,372 -5.2%
Malta 2,903
Faro 2,892 2,989 -3.25
Arrecife 2,655 2,262 17.4%
Tenerife 2,645 2,769 -4.5%
Paris 2,021 3,133 -35.5%
Cologne 1,962
Groningen 1,899 2,112 -10.1%
Barcelona 1,874 1,830 2.4%
Budapest 1,140
Vienna 991
Lyon 515
Caen 0 794 -100.0%
Palma 0 378 -100.0%
Las palmas 0 1,862 -100.0%
Glasgow 3,023
Manchester 3,549
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Bjarte
You will have to go through immigration, past customs, after picking your bag up and make your way back through security.
there is a priority lane on the far right of the immigration hall which,in theory, you should be escorted down by a stobarts member of staff.
You will have to go through immigration, past customs, after picking your bag up and make your way back through security.
there is a priority lane on the far right of the immigration hall which,in theory, you should be escorted down by a stobarts member of staff.
phatbear
Will not Bjarte's hold bag be checked through to DUB and transferred at SEN onto the DUB flight without him reclaiming it at SEN?
The Flybe website FAQ on that topic says it will but that you may need to show your baggage receipt at SEN check-in to facilitate this. If you are already in possession of a boarding pass for the DUB flight you should not have to do even this. Presumably the Flybe on-line check-in facility enables you to print out boarding passes for the two sectors.
I think the SEN website should make it clear exactly what the procedure is for connection flights, these not previously having been available at SEN.
Will not Bjarte's hold bag be checked through to DUB and transferred at SEN onto the DUB flight without him reclaiming it at SEN?
The Flybe website FAQ on that topic says it will but that you may need to show your baggage receipt at SEN check-in to facilitate this. If you are already in possession of a boarding pass for the DUB flight you should not have to do even this. Presumably the Flybe on-line check-in facility enables you to print out boarding passes for the two sectors.
I think the SEN website should make it clear exactly what the procedure is for connection flights, these not previously having been available at SEN.
Last edited by Expressflight; 17th Jan 2018 at 07:50. Reason: additional thoughts
On a related topic I'm pleased to see that the Minimum Connection Time at SEN has been reduced to 45 minutes from the previous 90 minutes which did seem excessive.
Last edited by Expressflight; 17th Jan 2018 at 07:22. Reason: grammar
