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Old 20th Aug 2018, 13:45
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No problem Dave. It does seem that Stobart seem to be in a bit of a pickle on a number of fronts, but I have always thought they should have stuck to what they know best - road and rail logistics.
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 14:23
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Interesting post. This caught my attention:

Originally Posted by mik3bravo View Post
We do business in Dublin and frequently got our staff travelling over and back to Dublin. We switched to Flybe/Stobart when we learned they stuck e195er on the route.
Why would your company use a service if it is run with an E95 but not if an ATR72 is on it? I always thought that this "Geez, it has props, must be a WW2 left-over" was more the approach my 80year old mother takes when it comes to using commercial air services.

What I am surprised about is that Stobart has not dumped the aircraft in question to BE and leased in a replacement as Flybe should be in some sort of breach of contract by providing an aircraft that breaks down all the time and would have to chip in some money to foot the bill.
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 09:45
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Just for a change Echo Hotel has gone tech in Prague. Passengers rescued by a Titan 737. Can't blame Echo Fox all the time.....
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 11:56
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Originally Posted by Barling Magna View Post
Just for a change Echo Hotel has gone tech in Prague. Passengers rescued by a Titan 737. Can't blame Echo Fox all the time.....
It would be interesting to learn what type of technical problems these aircraft are suffering. Who in Prague can fix them if it's a speciality part or engineer required?
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 05:59
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I would have thought that Stobart Air has achieved its main objective which was to attract attention to SEN and entice big LCC's.

Surely now Stobart Air would be better to focus entirely on the Aer Lingus work they are doing for fear of losing that to CityJet in the future? Especially given the added annoyance of having to gain a UK AOC by March 2019 - for what?

However Stobart have been known to be completely unpredictable and irrational - so who knows!
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 09:38
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I have been wondering whether the Flybe deal will end, and whether Stobart will seek to continue the SEN operation under the EIR brand instead. While I agree there is less of a case now for maintaining the E195 routes, although there are a few bits that donít replicate new EZY and FR routes and I believe there are some opportunities that could be exploited, the ATR operation is a bit different. On the face of it it seems to tick over quite nicely, and fills a bit of a niche that canít easily be replicated at other London airports and that larger aircraft donít suit. This of course was supposed to be another advantage of SEN.

Iím doubtful Cityjet could step into the EIR operation imminently l as they donít really have appropriate aircraft.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 09:43
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Why would Aer Lingus want to be involved with the SEN operations?
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 10:04
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That was in fact the original plan for 2014 but it didn't come about and that's when Stobart did the franchise deal with Flybe.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 10:29
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Why would Aer Lingus want to be involved with the SEN operations?
It would effectively be money for nothing, and a barely noticeable extension of the existing deal. MAN and RNS are even in the existing EIR network. Besides, if the operation is to be maintained there arenít many other airlines that have franchising on such a basis....unless it becomes Ryanair Regional! They have just done a deal with Air Malta of course....
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 13:24
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Further changes to the Stobart winter schedule - Glasgow is now off-sale and Caen is taking a break during Jan and the first half of Feb.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 14:16
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....... and more surprisingly MAN not bookable after 6/1/19. The CFR winter break is normal for the route.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 15:23
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I hoped MAN wouldnít be going but had some fears when they hiked the price recently. Itís odd itís being run until early Jan though rather than cutting it at the end of the summer. Itís also been growing month by month.

If MAN does go that means from early Jan there isnít much of the Stobart operation left. The schedule as currently on sale would only require a 2nd ATR between about 10-1 each day (except Sun when itís late afternoon). The E195 schedule is even more sparse, three are required only on Sunday afternoons. Mon to Fri needs two between 8-4, and Saturday needs just one to service two flights.

Clearly there might be some further alterations to shift the rogue Sunday flight but overall itís not looking too positive.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 16:43
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Tried back searching this thread but did a poster recently mention details of the runway will be resurfaced and grooved and taxiways upgraded? Have I misunterstood? When are the works to commence and what is the estimated completion time period?
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 16:54
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Yes, I believe the runway will will be grooved and re-profiled/resurfaced ahead of the start of RYR operations and I assume it will take place during the autumn/winter months. As far as taxiways are concerned I've heard nothing on that score but one thing that could be considered is a holding loop serving the threshold of runway 05 as that would increase the movement capacity of the runway.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 17:18
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Thanks
RWY05 threshold mods will be welcomed if they happen.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 18:15
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The runway work is no small undertaking. By way of comparison Exeter resurfaced their runway last winter over a five month period November-March. They achieved it with only night closures of the runway at weekends. So the SEN work will undoubtedly impact on operations, though to what extent remains to be seen. Clearly Stobart cannot afford a repeat of the CAX fiasco with RYR expecting to start SEN operations on April 2.

I would be surprised if they took on the RW05 loop at this stage. They don't have planning permission for it yet and that alone may take time they don't have. I would have thought it could only be a distraction to the time critical resurfacing task though one can see the advantages of getting the job done when the equipment is already on site and the runway closed.
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 09:49
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SEN rated the best London airport for the fifth year running by Which Magazine.
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 10:04
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Originally Posted by Planespeaking View Post
SEN rated the best London airport for the fifth year running by Which Magazine.
I tried digging it out, no luck. Have you got the link?
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 10:11
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo View Post
I tried digging it out, no luck. Have you got the link?
Its posted on the Daily Mail website and the Southend Echo site.
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 11:21
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That's not the whole story, as Southend was not listed in the larger airport section. In that section Heathrow Terminal 5 came first. Southend came second overall in the small airport section behind Doncaster but was the most popular small London Airport ahead of London City.

No one mention L****n please is it was in its usual position.

Table here

https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/7086...uk-worst-2018/

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