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Old 16th Jun 2018, 16:34
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Originally Posted by Barling Magna
Surely they must be using the SFP variant?
The seat maps have 195 seats. So possibly MAX 200?
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 16:38
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
The seat maps have 195 seats. So possibly MAX 200?
But can it operate, for example, SEN to Corfu with 195 and luggage?
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 16:45
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Looking at the RYR flight times for next April onwards, I see most mornings all three aircraft depart between 0645 and 0715. The terminal will be heaving with people between 0500 and 0630 I think!
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 16:49
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The ramp' were crazy busy with EZY, STOB and Flybe too.
So next year, with 3 x RYR 738s will SEN start having overnight parking issues as well? Will they have to start using stands 11+ which will eat into parking for Stobart Executive ?
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 16:56
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
The seat maps have 195 seats. So possibly MAX 200?
Posting this here for the second time: the seat maps have 189 seats.

No Max-200s are loaded in the Ryanair system.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 16:58
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Originally Posted by pabely
So next year, with 3 x RYR 738s will SEN start having overnight parking issues as well? Will they have to start using stands 11+ which will eat into parking for Stobart Executive ?
No the newly constructed north apron has space for 5 A320 sized stands. It may need a remote coaching operation, but we shall see.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 17:23
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Remote stands with coaching, remote car parks with coaching, crowded terminal, queuing to pass airside, queuing to land, queuing to backtrack, queuing at immigration and traffic congestion. So what made SEN number one with its convenience and good passenger experience is about to end? Worth it though as no one really likes an underused airport. Roll on it becoming Luton Mark 2 but on a far more compact scale and then watch the business jets go before they even got started due to new noise controls due to complaining residents.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 17:50
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Expressflight - Jersey runway does have grooved BBA but the stone mix needs to be more "open" to enable grooving. Southend's runway, similar to Manchester 05L/23R, is
BBA but with a "tighter" stone mix therefore not designed to be grooved.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 18:25
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Originally Posted by Planespeaking

No the newly constructed north apron has space for 5 A320 sized stands. It may need a remote coaching operation, but we shall see.
Didn't realise as it does not appear to have stand numbers according to the charts, big difference from when I did my PPL training there!
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 20:10
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Originally Posted by Musket90
Expressflight - Jersey runway does have grooved BBA but the stone mix needs to be more "open" to enable grooving. Southend's runway, similar to Manchester 05L/23R, is
BBA but with a "tighter" stone mix therefore not designed to be grooved.
Thanks for that information. Looks like full re-surfacing needed at SEN then prior to grooving.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 20:46
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Someone posted on the LTN thread that SEN had 4 overnight business jet movements maybe yesterday, which I thought was a bit on the light side seeing that SEN is the only airport open for that sort of traffic now but then I found this London Southend Airport | London Southend Airport | Southend-on-Sea Borough Council Seems that SEN is limited to just 4 movements per night so also has major restrictions.
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Old 17th Jun 2018, 08:22
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The limit is 120 movements per month. Additional movements can be accepted but anything above 120 has to be deducted from the next month's quota so there is rather more flexibility than "just 4 movements per night" would suggest. I think inbound diversions are exempt from inclusion in the night quota.
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Old 17th Jun 2018, 17:38
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Out of interest, is this 120 limit both inbound and outbound. ie 1a/c=2 movements.
Just a thought🧐
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Old 17th Jun 2018, 18:17
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Most overnight flights are inbound.
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 07:17
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SEN had six bizjet arrivals overnight Sunday.
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 07:20
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Looking up then but if they don't ration themselves they will run out of slots towards the end of each month. Do they stay or reposition empty to other London Airports for a departure?
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 07:21
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Looking up then but if they don't ration themselves they will run out of slots towards the end of each month. Do they stay or reposition empty to other London Airports for a departure?
sensible thing would be to file a flight plan to Luton then divert to SEN then it doesn't count!
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 07:30
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I was thinking with Rayair stating routes from april next year, and being handled by Stobarts, if it works out ok,will they try to have them ground handle them at Stantsed ?
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 09:07
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The case for more early and late trains can only increase with the Ryanair announcement and the general increase in Southend's movements. How long can the rail company hold out?
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 10:33
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I saw Air Malta A320 land this morning on 23. It managed to pull up in time to exit Charlie without a backtrack. Perhaps Stobart should consider shortening the runway!!
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