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Old 25th Mar 2018, 13:04
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30 or so found their way to the flight in spite of what the website said, which shows how inconsequential the website is.

While a load of 40ish percent isn’t great, it’s about double what they achieved last time round.
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30 or so found their way to the flight in spite of what the website said, which shows how inconsequential the website is.

While a load of 40ish percent isn’t great, it’s about double what they achieved last time round.
I’m hoping the route proves itself this time. VLM v3.1 (or whatever incarnation they are now) are back on the LCY-ANR run again but it’s a very odd and somewhat precarious version of VLM that may well vanish again. I know people are very hesitant to book with them and Flybe to SEN is being mooted by the regulars as a good replacement. Fingers crossed.
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Old 25th Mar 2018, 15:14
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I think Stobart will be hoping to generate a fair amount of connecting traffic from ANR and, particularly, from GRQ via SEN to DUB and MAN mainly and fares are currently very competitive if booking a few weeks ahead.
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I think Stobart will be hoping to generate a fair amount of connecting traffic from ANR and, particularly, from GRQ via SEN to DUB and MAN mainly and fares are currently very competitive if booking a few weeks ahead.
Hmm. VLM have reserved slots to serve MAN x2 daily from ANR.
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Indeed they have and it will be interesting to see if they commence services from 31st May as has been mentioned. There is also talk of them operating a OST-MAN route once daily.
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Indeed they have and it will be interesting to see if they commence services from 31st May as has been mentioned. There is also talk of them operating a OST-MAN route once daily.
The new VLM Antwerp (which is now a separate entity from the new VLM Brussels which itself seems to be stillborn) has the oddest route network but, to avoid thread drift, I do hope the SEN/ANR Flybe service establishes itself. It may well end up being the primary route.
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Old 26th Mar 2018, 03:29
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New GRONINGAN based aircraft arrives today 07,25, could do well for people who have to work/be in London early, can get a full day in London as the return flight leaves SEN @ 18.55
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[QUOTE=Steviec9;10096811]The new VLM Antwerp (which is now a separate entity from the new VLM Brussels which itself seems to be stillborn) has the oddest route network but, to avoid thread drift, I do hope the SEN/ANR Flybe service establishes itself. It may well end up being the primary route.[/QUOTE

I think with only 4 flights a week, the Antwerp route won't be "proven" against VLM until Flybe offer a similar schedule into SEN, although I realise the risks.
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Old 26th Mar 2018, 10:29
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I see the Glasgow flight was operated by a Titan A320. Cricky. How many pax I wonder. Will it be used on other flights today?
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Originally Posted by tophat27dt
I think with only 4 flights a week, the Antwerp route won't be "proven" against VLM until Flybe offer a similar schedule into SEN, although I realise the risks.
Agreed but it needs to be proven in its own right from SEN, as given the history of VLM and their ability to rapidly expand and then implode, it may, at short notice, become the only route to London from ANR. I think Stobart/Flybe need to hold their nerve this time round.
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I get the impression this time round they are going for the leisure market at a more sensible frequency, with wider recognition of the SEN network locally and useful connections boosting viability.

It seemed to me last time round they were expecting the imminent implosion of Cityjet, which obviously didn’t happen and Stobart got heavily bruised.
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Originally Posted by tophat27dt
I see the Glasgow flight was operated by a Titan A320. Cricky. How many pax I wonder. Will it be used on other flights today?
Looks like it. In the last couple of minutes it's just left for Prague.
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It's reported today on the Belgian Luchtzak website that a VLM spokesman has said they will not be operating to MAN this year.
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
It's reported today on the Belgian Luchtzak website that a VLM spokesman has said they will not be operating to MAN this year.
Sources in Belgium say that they have 'speculatively' looked at ANR-MAN-OST but finances are such that it's a no go at the moment. Other than LCY/ANR, which has already been pruned back, reports suggest an awful lot of fresh air being transported around Europe on the F50s and very little take up for the delayed start of ANR-BHX despite heavy promotions.

Thread back to SEN - keep that SEN/ANR link going for a few months...
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G-FBEF, which broke down yesterday causing the Titan sub today, left this evening and headed straight back into SEN a few minutes later. Ironically, just minutes after Titan left to go back to STN.

Reliability of those EMBs seems a real problem.
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Lease some new C-Series, Stobart.
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Old 26th Mar 2018, 23:12
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feb passenger figs.AIRPORT MOVEMENTS 2.087 (UP 33%)ATMs.980 (UP 61%)PASSENGERS 79.013 (UP 30%) ..getting better and better
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Originally Posted by mikkie4
feb passenger figs.AIRPORT MOVEMENTS 2.087 (UP 33%)ATMs.980 (UP 61%)PASSENGERS 79.013 (UP 30%) ..getting better and better
Once again, in the CAA stats, I cannot see passenger figures listed separately for diversions received inbound during February. i.e.
Warsaw, Billund, Berne, Luxembourg (x3), Zurich, Florence, Dublin (x6) Glasgow (maybe the latter two are inclkuded in the total figures for those airports.
However, when I added up the figures listed by the CAA, the total was 77906. Can you tell me where you got the 79013 total from?
Thanks.
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Old 27th Mar 2018, 18:00
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As there are no diversion-origin airports mentioned I would assume that the roughly 1,100 'missing' pax were from, and in some case to, those airports. I suspect that the re-routed LCY-DUB-LCY flights are included in the 7,421 pax shown but LUX and the others are obviously not itemised as such.
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Old 27th Mar 2018, 18:55
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
As there are no diversion-origin airports mentioned I would assume that the roughly 1,100 'missing' pax were from, and in some case to, those airports. I suspect that the re-routed LCY-DUB-LCY flights are included in the 7,421 pax shown but LUX and the others are obviously not itemised as such.
It's strange that for many previous months all the diversion passengers were listed under their respective departure airports. I remember asking one year ago whether these figures are arrivals and departures. Now none seem to be listed specifically under airport names.
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