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Old 6th Oct 2020, 20:00
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Are you sure you're not seeing Titan 737s operating the cargo flights from SEN under the ASL contract? I just puzzled how you would seem them positioning between STN and SEN when you live in East London.
Someone will need to check a flight tracking site but over the summer months I have a recollection that the Titan freighter repositioned regularly to/from STN. Maybe it was for base maintenance?
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Old 6th Oct 2020, 20:30
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Originally Posted by asdf1234 View Post
Someone will need to check a flight tracking site but over the summer months I have a recollection that the Titan freighter repositioned regularly to/from STN. Maybe it was for base maintenance?
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Old 6th Oct 2020, 22:06
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Originally Posted by Expressflight View Post
Are you sure you're not seeing Titan 737s operating the cargo flights from SEN under the ASL contract? I just puzzled how you would seem them positioning between STN and SEN when you live in East London.
I am currently residing elsewhere, somewhere that reasonably low-flying Titans (and easyjets, and the odd Jota) are noticeable.
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Old 7th Oct 2020, 04:18
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 View Post
I am currently residing elsewhere, somewhere that reasonably low-flying Titans (and easyjets, and the odd Jota) are noticeable.
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Old 7th Oct 2020, 08:00
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LTNman, you gave me a jolly good Guffaw with your response.
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 10:29
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I see former Easyjet cabin crew are not happy that Easyjet intend to open two seasonal bases in Spain and Portugal next summer after closing Southend. https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/187...ulls-southend/

Meanwhile. https://www.essex-tv.co.uk/london-so...poppy-display/

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Old 16th Oct 2020, 10:48
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As expected and inevitable following Ryanairís announcement on reductions SEN has lost a few more flights though it could have been worse. Vilnius is down to Saturday only. Alicante and Malaga down to 3x weekly (was 4-5 I think). Dublin is still on sale from November but I donít expect that to operate. Should Dublin happen it will be 16 flights per week, otherwise 12. Nothing on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays. As a comparison the Bournemouth base has been reduced to 9 weekly and four routes which were to operate over winter now wonít.
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 13:21
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Prospects have sunk somewhat lower now in comparing SEN with BOH unfortunately.
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 14:06
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post
Prospects have sunk somewhat lower now in comparing SEN with BOH unfortunately.
Not really because itís a comparably sized base with a similar number and range of routes for the individual airline concerned. Should I have compared it to Stansted? Bergamo?
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 14:50
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The truth is that to reduce cash burn the terminal needs to shut down until the Spring.
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 15:04
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How much cash can be saved by the terminal closing either a day at a time, or for a 3 month block period ? I agree that opening the terminal for just a single flight per day is not optimal, but staff presumably need to be paid throughout the winter if the airport wants (at least some of) them to remain available for work in the spring. I think a completely cold restart in spring with a need to recruit staff is perhaps overkill
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 15:24
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Why then close the terminal when there are no flights on some days? Worrying times for anyone working at SEN but I would expect it is under consideration.

I can remember Blackpool Airport. Plenty of staff and no passengers when I used to call in. The result was the demolition of their modern terminal.
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 16:31
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Frankly I cannot see the logic of closing the terminal completely for up to 6 months in the hope that things may have improved by then. The cost of keeping it open for 4 days per week, as is now the situation, is manageable when balanced against the total loss of revenue from Ryanair and having to start operations from scratch some time in 2021 if the terminal was completely closed now. No doubt some of the employees that have been retained have been re-deployed from time to time to other of the airport's operational activities which continue to produce revenue.

To totally throw in the towel would hardly reinforce to current airline customers the stated attitude that SEN expects to be able to revive its fortunes as the industry itself recovers.
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 16:49
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The result was the demolition of their modern terminal.
Don't you mean the tent was returned to the circus?
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 23:00
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will Ryanair pull its base at Southend?
https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/187...uts-announced/
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Old 17th Oct 2020, 09:35
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I was regular PPL through Southend in the early 2000s when they had no scheduled flights at all, for years. The terminal was always open and staffed, which surprised me but there it was. There were always people in the cafe when it was open.
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Old 19th Oct 2020, 16:31
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Jota Aviation opening an operational base at Biggin.
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Old 19th Oct 2020, 18:34
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post
Jota Aviation opening an operational base at Biggin.
Seems a base closure at SEN, last one turn the lights out!
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Old 19th Oct 2020, 18:34
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Note the comment “Currently based“ rather than “based”

https://flyjota.com/2020/10/jota-avi...-hill-airport/


Currently based at London Southend Airport, Jota Aviation specialises in passenger and cargo services, including charter flights for the sports, corporate, music and film industries.

Andy Green, CEO, Jota Aviation says: “With its proximity to the Capital, London Biggin Hill is the ideal location from which to continue the growth in our operation. This is a very positive move for us, and we look forward to offering all our customers the quick reaction dispatches we are known for. I am excited to soon be providing outbound and inbound flights from our new base.”

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Old 19th Oct 2020, 21:28
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Seems a base closure at SEN, last one turn the lights out!
Yet Southend is 24/7. Would they really move to an airport with limited hours?
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