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Old 28th Sep 2020, 08:42
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Regarding "getaways" local newspaper stating " no flights currently on Southend Airport`s list of departures in October" ....cannot be right surely.
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 08:54
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post
Regarding "getaways" local newspaper stating " no flights currently on Southend Airport`s list of departures in October" ....cannot be right surely.
There is about 5 or so routes that will be running from SEN, but no flights 3 days a week. Anyone that hasnít already been called back to work on the airport should probably start looking for a new job!
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 10:13
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The local rag is wrong then as it states there will be only 2 routes both to destinations that means quarantine on return. https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/187...irus-pandemic/

I would assume the terminal will be closed on the day of no flights to save money and that many of the staff will become part timers? Not a good situation with bills to pay.
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Old 1st Oct 2020, 10:15
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In a brave new world
with just a handful of planes
weíll start all over again......


https://app.standard.co.uk/2020/10/0...9/content.html
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Old 1st Oct 2020, 11:05
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave View Post
In a brave new world
with just a handful of planes
weíll start all over again......


https://app.standard.co.uk/2020/10/0...9/content.html
Article suggests airport talking with other LCC. Not many left to talk too and in this current climate very little chance of attracting new business. EZY probably gone for good, RYR may add a small number of routes if demand is there and cannot see Wizz expanding nor Jet2 coming on board With LTN and STN next door and well below capacity. That leaves TUI who are already culling routes from existing bases!
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Old 1st Oct 2020, 11:37
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Glynn Jones on local radio (BBC Essex) yesterday, interview starts about 13 minutes in, then phone in debate throughout the next hour or so

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08rf4hr
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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 21:44
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Volotea would make sense for a base, but I guess that depends upon the outcome of negotiations surrounding the UK exit from the EU?
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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 21:59
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Terminal Closure

PASSENGER TERMINAL CLOSED ON WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY AND SATURDAY. NO COMMMERCIAL PASSENGER DIVERSION FLIGHTS CAN BE ACCEPTED THAT REQUIRE USE OF THE TERMINAL, ASSOCIATED STANDS AND HANDLING FACILITIES.

FROM: 01 Oct 2020 11:30 GMT (12:30 BST) TO: 01 Nov 2020 00:59 GMT. SCHEDULE: WED THU SAT 0001-2359
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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 23:19
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear View Post
Volotea would make sense for a base, but I guess that depends upon the outcome of negotiations surrounding the UK exit from the EU?
A virtually unknown airline here in the U.K. no chance.

Aer Lingus have more awareness In the U.K. and even they couldnít make LGW work a few years back.
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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 23:25
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Perhaps Transavia might like to have a go at flying between Southend and Amsterdam ? It's the only 2019 top 5 route from SEN (it was the #1 busiest route !) which is completely unserved and unlikely to see the same demographic as KLM's service from London City....

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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 23:35
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Originally Posted by pamann View Post
A virtually unknown airline here in the U.K. no chance.

Aer Lingus have more awareness In the U.K. and even they couldnít make LGW work a few years back.
A lot has changed since EI days. Brand awareness means much less now for one thing with Skyscanner etc. Plus one thing SEN have been good at is locally marketing the place. Itís purely hypothetical of course but Iíve thought for a while Volotea would be a good fit. I think a Wizz Med operation would be more likely even if they do get a 20+ base at LGW.
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Old 3rd Oct 2020, 07:29
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Originally Posted by Tranceaddict View Post
PASSENGER TERMINAL CLOSED ON WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY AND SATURDAY. NO COMMMERCIAL PASSENGER DIVERSION FLIGHTS CAN BE ACCEPTED THAT REQUIRE USE OF THE TERMINAL, ASSOCIATED STANDS AND HANDLING FACILITIES.

FROM: 01 Oct 2020 11:30 GMT (12:30 BST) TO: 01 Nov 2020 00:59 GMT. SCHEDULE: WED THU SAT 0001-2359
Inevitable I guess in order to keep staffing costs down. Why then are Ryanair still selling Dublin flights available on the 28/29th & 31st October?
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Old 3rd Oct 2020, 08:53
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Inevitable I guess in order to keep staffing costs down. Why then are Ryanair still selling Dublin flights available on the 28/29th & 31st October?
When I noticed the cuts a couple of weeks back there were other one-off flights for sale on these dates, which coincides with Half Term
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Old 3rd Oct 2020, 09:17
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Originally Posted by pamann View Post
A virtually unknown airline here in the U.K. no chance.

Aer Lingus have more awareness In the U.K. and even they couldnít make LGW work a few years back.
Citing Aer Lingus Gatwick operation as a comparator is nonsense. Aer Lingus has a robust business model but clearly easyJet made a concerted effort to see them off.

The more general issue is that an airline with a name that has a geographical significance (Aer Lingus - Ireland, Air France - France etc) rarely has success in markets unrelated. Therefore, in the UK Aer Lingus would be thought of an airline that flies to Ireland and potentially to North America.

Volotea is a great suggestion. The Southend Market is heavily reliant on the catchment, so a big marketing bang could hit the spot together with some lead in price activity. Beyond its own marketing they could use tour operators and online travel agents who serve a strong market segment eg Expedia, Edreams, Kayak. Clearly the timing is not right now, but potentially mid 21 or when we see the back of this virus.

​​​​​​A 2 aircraft base in time wild be sensible and starting out of Ryanair's way, Southend could provide a niche away from the other London airports.

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Old 3rd Oct 2020, 16:50
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Originally Posted by Tranceaddict View Post
PASSENGER TERMINAL CLOSED ON WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY AND SATURDAY. NO COMMMERCIAL PASSENGER DIVERSION FLIGHTS CAN BE ACCEPTED THAT REQUIRE USE OF THE TERMINAL, ASSOCIATED STANDS AND HANDLING FACILITIES.

FROM: 01 Oct 2020 11:30 GMT (12:30 BST) TO: 01 Nov 2020 00:59 GMT. SCHEDULE: WED THU SAT 0001-2359
Bit of a challenge for London City operators as the bad weather closes in.
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Old 3rd Oct 2020, 16:52
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Thats putting it mildly. What would be nearest alternate
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Old 3rd Oct 2020, 16:54
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Originally Posted by Alteagod View Post
Thats putting it mildly. What would be nearest alternate
SOU usually receives a lot of LCY diversions
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Old 3rd Oct 2020, 18:10
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Oooops...Don`t forget STN...Has been used in very recent times by the DND.
SWR nominate STN as their #1 alternate.
BACF have a very close connection with STN & in pre-covid times STN often turned down diversionary requests due lack of stands at peak.
Pretty sure all will be well.
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Old 3rd Oct 2020, 18:33
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SOU usually receives a lot of LCY diversions
I think you are talking very different times, alternatives would be any London airports as they are all running well below capacity now.
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Old 3rd Oct 2020, 22:28
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Grrr

Originally Posted by pamann View Post
A virtually unknown airline here in the U.K. no chance.

Aer Lingus have more awareness In the U.K. and even they couldnít make LGW work a few years back.

That's the spirit. If an airline commences and the prices are good, then with excellent marketing, no reason for them not to do well. Vueling as an example. Unknown brand..........Still fill planes out of UK airports, or should I say did pre-covid.
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