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Old 20th Sep 2017, 12:40
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post
& with credit to a poster on the STN thread STN retains 7 EZY a/c with this release....
I'm not surprise EZY are sticking to 7 at STN
They have never had much of a back bone or fight in them
They have let Jet2 come in and take over EZY as No2 at STN
I don't see EZY keeping 7a/c at STN for long they will gradually get pushed out by jet2 this could be good news for SEN in the future
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Old 20th Sep 2017, 13:19
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daz211....perhaps or perhaps NOT...EZY co-exist quite happily with EXS say at MAN another MAG airport...The decamping game to periphery airports is not in their interests ultimately,they require visibility & engagement in which will be the largest growth airport & market certainly in the South & possibly in the UK namely STN..Another factor is MAG itself,it was under BAA ownership that the three STN based units together with three crews for each & certain routes were lost to SEN,I would suggest MAG & certainly more so now with a re bolstered team & approach to driving growth are a much more formidable airport landlord than was the case in the BAA past..Recent examples have been Primera which a LTN poster has stated LTN tried v hard for...Jet2 which every airport in the SE wanted & now perhaps AZA which again a certain LTN poster thought had been bagged...Not to mention still then no 4th EZY SEN unit after we had been assured on here that it was a done deal..
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LTN was not in a position to offer Jet2 anything either this year or even next year as their operation was too large. For Jet2 it was Stansted or nothing so for MAG it was not much of a battle.
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Old 20th Sep 2017, 13:48
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Hmmmmmm
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Old 20th Sep 2017, 14:04
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Jet2 will not be No 2 airline at STN next year, they will have approx 20 flights a day where as EZY will have 30+. Although Jet2 will have 3 more aircraft they do 2 rotations where as Ezy do 3.

It will be interesting in the future as EZY's key strategy is being the No1 or No2 position at any airport they are based at. Hence why they have given up on HAM.

No airframes will move from STN to SEN, they're totally different markets as EZY has realised by the trial and error of routes from SEN that have come and gone. They've already made the mistake of moving a 4th. They have realised SEN is a bucket and spade niche with the ability to achieve really decent yields on those summer routes and some low frequency city destinations compared to the main London airports. STN is key to EZY's domestic strategy with routes fit around those schedules. With long serving 'random' routes like LJU, BIO, OVD still achieving good yields.
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Old 20th Sep 2017, 15:06
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Originally Posted by _aax1 View Post
Jet2 will not be No 2 airline at STN next year, they will have approx 20 flights a day where as EZY will have 30+. Although Jet2 will have 3 more aircraft they do 2 rotations where as Ezy do 3.

It will be interesting in the future as EZY's key strategy is being the No1 or No2 position at any airport they are based at. Hence why they have given up on HAM.

No airframes will move from STN to SEN, they're totally different markets as EZY has realised by the trial and error of routes from SEN that have come and gone. They've already made the mistake of moving a 4th. They have realised SEN is a bucket and spade niche with the ability to achieve really decent yields on those summer routes and some low frequency city destinations compared to the main London airports. STN is key to EZY's domestic strategy with routes fit around those schedules. With long serving 'random' routes like LJU, BIO, OVD still achieving good yields.
I would argue jet2 are no2 at STN offering more based a/c and more routes on offer and I bet jet2 will carry more passengers in 2018
My main point is Easyjet are stagnant they don't have any fight or or imagination when it comes to routes.
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Old 20th Sep 2017, 17:04
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SEN 5 what happened?
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Old 20th Sep 2017, 17:47
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SEN 5 what happened?
It's still there, somewhere: http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...light=southend
Now my maths is a bit rusty, but Southend-6 would seem a more logical title for the current thread.
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 07:02
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Originally Posted by asdf1234 View Post
Let's hope you weren't on this morning's 10:55 departure from the airport which got to Stratford in 51 minutes and just got into Liverpool Street in 60 minutes.
No, I wasn't on that service. My train on Tuesday took 52 minutes from Liverpool Street and 45 minutes from Stratford to SEN and yesterday 44 minutes from SEN to Stratford and 53 minutes to Liverpool Street. Both ran on time.
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 08:21
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Stansted Express is bad enough but this seems like a slow crawl to me which emphasises Southend's distance from the heart of London
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 09:48
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Stansted Express is bad enough but this seems like a slow crawl to me which emphasises Southend's distance from the heart of London
It takes 46 mins minimum from LHR T1-3 to Liverpool St, and I guarantee plane to train will be quicker at SEN. But it that's not going to persuade anyone to fly into a minor airport in Essex. If it took 10-15 minutes, that might be a different story. In order for Southend to be taken seriously as a destination it has to be served by several airlines from a healthy spread of major cities. Can't see that happening, so it needs to focus on what it's good at: providing flights to places that people want to go and gradually persuading the heavily populated catchment area that it's a really good option if the right flight at the right price is available.

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Old 21st Sep 2017, 10:48
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And 1 hour 32 minutes to Paddington while the Heathrow Express is something like 15 minutes.

Regardless of travel times it is more about perception. Commuter rolling stock and trains that stop at every station does not make for a good travel experience.

Not doubting for a moment that once at the airport Southend shines like no other London Airport but then it should due to its passenger levels.
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 13:43
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Spanish eyes - please read and digest my posts #13 and #14. May I suggest we now stop talking about trains before it leads to the closure of this thread? Thank you.
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 14:50
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Mr T sells 1m Stobart Group shares...
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 15:19
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post
Mr T sells 1m Stobart Group shares...
And your point is from this cryptic post?
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 15:27
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Effective 28-Feb-2017, Andrew Tinkler had an interest in 29 million shares in Stobart Group

Source - page 69 of
http://www.stobartgroup.co.uk/images...rt_AR17_AW.pdf
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 15:35
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Originally Posted by Planespeaking View Post
And your point is from this cryptic post?
To be precise Tinkler had put up just over 36% of his share holding in Stobart Group for sale subject to getting the price he wanted.

Only 1m of the shares fetched his min pricing. He did this the day before trading for company execs in Stobart shares is suspended for the close period.

Some might see his attempt to sell as a forewarning of losses to be revealed in the year end accounts. If he knew the accounts would reveal a sudden jump in profits he may well buy the day before the close period starts.

So Southside Bobby not being cryptic at all but pointing out the results will likely be worse than anyone could imagine...
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 15:36
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planespeaking...it is not a cryptic post it is an actual statement of FACT.Fact enough for a Cumbrian rag to carry the story,oops sorry the FACT that Mr T of Carlisle & Southend endeavours has sold 1m shares & that is how it has been part reported...end of...Nought more for me to add...Please be a good chap & stop picking up on all that I type eh..
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 15:39
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And here's the link.

Andrew Tinkler sells Stobart Group shares | News & Star
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 20:05
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So.. he has sold shares so he can invest personally in what stobart capital , Party of stobart group, is getting up to..
So he is either cashing in under cover, doing what the rest of the board told him to do or he has seen a killing stobart capital is about to make and wants in ..
it's one of the three
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