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The problem with GLA is that 7000 still only represents a load of 50% at the time of year you would expect it to be strongest, and it’s been fairly static. GRQ was more like 64%, at a time of year you would expect demand to be a bit weaker and with much higher base fares.
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I just wonder what expectations Stobart had with regard to yield when they announced SEN-GLA? At that time fares from STN were APD plus next to nothing. So how were fares ever going to rise much beyond those offered at the start? What was so special about the route that growth would not be choked off by the requirement to improve the yield? Or was that secondary to the need to get numbers through the terminal and take revenue there?
I guess it's just frustrating to see a route that during August was number 8 out of 32 for pax being axed. Perhaps the improving numbers came too late, or perhaps they realised that yield would never reach where it needed to be.
Perhaps it's best to see Stobart's plans for 2019 before being critical.
I guess it's just frustrating to see a route that during August was number 8 out of 32 for pax being axed. Perhaps the improving numbers came too late, or perhaps they realised that yield would never reach where it needed to be.
Perhaps it's best to see Stobart's plans for 2019 before being critical.
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Fares were only really APD+nothing during the week from STN if you booked in advance. If you tried booking the week or two beforehand or for Fri/Sat/Sun/Mon am they were considerably more. Stobart offered some ridiculously low fares and still couldn’t fill it. I got one for £9.27 or something similar.
For me the timings weren’t quite right which didn’t help. Last winter on Mondays it was actually the first flight northbound out of London, but that benefit was outdone by there being no return that evening and only mid-morning the next day which was useless for business. While it is now double daily, the evening one arrives in SEN quite late which puts me off when I can get back to STN much earlier and the morning southbound arrives too late to be of much use for Scottish business travellers.
For me the timings weren’t quite right which didn’t help. Last winter on Mondays it was actually the first flight northbound out of London, but that benefit was outdone by there being no return that evening and only mid-morning the next day which was useless for business. While it is now double daily, the evening one arrives in SEN quite late which puts me off when I can get back to STN much earlier and the morning southbound arrives too late to be of much use for Scottish business travellers.
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I am a bit surprised that Stobart Air plan to stop flights to Milan. Were the loads not good enough, or just not enough gaps in the planned schedule for the one remaining E195?
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Stobart have successfully shown route viability with easyJet and Ryanair PRG BUD DBV BGY REU VCE DUB to name a few, that was its sole purpose.
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Seems EI-GGC is unserviceable and on the ground in Dublin since Thursday evening. An Eastern ATR72 has arrived but it's from and to Aberdeen so probably not connected with the delays and normally operates into LCY. Plus for some reason FlyBe operated their morning Edinburgh-LCY Dash8
into SEN earlier today.
into SEN earlier today.
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Now that Luton and Stansted operations are back to normal so to speak (night jet movements etc) it will be interesting to see how many executive movements Southend will be able to hold on to.
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Does anyone know how many movements the new FBO handled to date this year?
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Purely anecdotal but it appears a not insignificant percentage of execs were inflight & operational diversions due to "curfews" elsewhere so not really making SEN the centre of choice.
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I'm sure you're right, and most will "go home". But the last few months have been an opportunity for SEN to demonstrate what they have to offer, and that should have advanced the project beyond anything they could have done on their own.
It's certainly true that the very large increase in bizjets using SEN this summer was almost entirely due to the "curfews" at LTN and to a lesser extent STN. Not many were re-routed/diverted in flight though but were PPR booked into SEN, so they chose SEN in advance given the situation elsewhere. Most are likely to return to their old habits of using LTN and STN at night I'm sure but it certainly raised SEN's profile worldwide which will hopefully yield some extra business going forward.
