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This does seem a bit outlandish - what's the source?
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New train service from Derry to Belfast International Airport
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New train service from Derry to Belfast International Airport
That’s a bus service from Belfast to BFS.
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An incredibly childish unprofessional response from BFS. This completely explains their inability to manage the facility.
Let's be realistic except for domestic & European short haul, BFS currently serves no purpose It does not serve LHR so LH is not served and so the available options are BHD & DUB. DUB often allows for one less stopover so is superior. Given the motorway routes it is readily accessible to most of the 2M hinterland (many of whom must be Roí residents) claimed by BFS.
Immigration & Customs in DUB are also a significant bonus.
Let's be realistic except for domestic & European short haul, BFS currently serves no purpose It does not serve LHR so LH is not served and so the available options are BHD & DUB. DUB often allows for one less stopover so is superior. Given the motorway routes it is readily accessible to most of the 2M hinterland (many of whom must be Roí residents) claimed by BFS.
Immigration & Customs in DUB are also a significant bonus.
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An incredibly childish unprofessional response from BFS. This completely explains their inability to manage the facility.
Let's be realistic except for domestic & European short haul, BFS currently serves no purpose It does not serve LHR so LH is not served and so the available options are BHD & DUB. DUB often allows for one less stopover so is superior. Given the motorway routes it is readily accessible to most of the 2M hinterland (many of whom must be Roí residents) claimed by BFS.
Immigration & Customs in DUB are also a significant bonus.
Let's be realistic except for domestic & European short haul, BFS currently serves no purpose It does not serve LHR so LH is not served and so the available options are BHD & DUB. DUB often allows for one less stopover so is superior. Given the motorway routes it is readily accessible to most of the 2M hinterland (many of whom must be Roí residents) claimed by BFS.
Immigration & Customs in DUB are also a significant bonus.
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This does seem a bit outlandish - what's the source?
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New train service from Derry to Belfast International Airport
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New train service from Derry to Belfast International Airport
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Yes you’ve a bus to catch , but it’s dedicated to Norwegians flight schedule, if the flights late it’s still there for you, from parking brake set at Stewart you can be on the bus in under 15 minutes, of course you can do the same to JFK but tarmac delays and then getting into town can take far far longer than the just over the hour trip from Stewart, no surprise it’s gone to double daily and rumoured increase to 3 daily next year.
The suits use BHD to LHR to New York and would never have been attracted to the the single class Norwegian product into SWF with no onward connections.
Whilst I like visiting Belfast I try to avoid routing back to my base via BFS if at all possible LHR to my home isn’t a great deal longer than Belfast centre to BFS airport.
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[QUOTE=Refuellerman;10258327]Belfast management need to smell wats cooking, either get their heads out of the sand or dub and europe will bury them. Lo cost needs legacy to pay for the airport.[/
On the positive side August up 14% and the rolling 12 months has gone through the 6 million barrier for the first ever time according to CAA stats. Considering they were as low as 4 million there has been some growth over the last 5 years. Northern Ireland public voting with their wallets.
On the positive side August up 14% and the rolling 12 months has gone through the 6 million barrier for the first ever time according to CAA stats. Considering they were as low as 4 million there has been some growth over the last 5 years. Northern Ireland public voting with their wallets.
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Personal opinion only, but I prefer flying to and from Belfast (even via LHR / LGW) than the two hour drive when you get home from Dublin, jetlagged, probably having been wide-awake across the pond on the way home. And pre-clearance adds two hours on the road, and an extra hour in the terminal in DUB...again, personal opinion, but I'm happy to clear immigration in the US on arrival.
PVD was circa 20-25 minutes, SFO last year was about the same, MCO maybe 30 minutes...my only bad experience was 90 minutes in EWR. And while you're in the queue for immigration, you'd only be waiting for baggage anyway...also, the new 'ATMs' do speed things up.
So for me, it will be BFS-MCO next year, or maybe BFS-LGW-MCO, or BHD-MAN-MCO.
PVD was circa 20-25 minutes, SFO last year was about the same, MCO maybe 30 minutes...my only bad experience was 90 minutes in EWR. And while you're in the queue for immigration, you'd only be waiting for baggage anyway...also, the new 'ATMs' do speed things up.
So for me, it will be BFS-MCO next year, or maybe BFS-LGW-MCO, or BHD-MAN-MCO.
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Speaking of what works and what doesn’t, surely this type of public subsidy on US routes into Dublin seriously skews a whole market out of shape? Wonder if any other operators ever thought of making a complaint?
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I have to agree. DUB is a 3 hour treck for me! Although people only seem to care about County Down, I don’t see people talking about anywhere else when discussing the drive from NI to DUB.
I see 90 mins constantly quoted.
I see 90 mins constantly quoted.
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Speaking of what works and what doesn’t, surely this type of public subsidy on US routes into Dublin seriously skews a whole market out of shape? Wonder if any other operators ever thought of making a complaint?
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Dont forget Stormont was to throw £9million at United just to keep them from axing the route.
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Personal opinion only, but I prefer flying to and from Belfast (even via LHR / LGW) than the two hour drive when you get home from Dublin, jetlagged, probably having been wide-awake across the pond on the way home. And pre-clearance adds two hours on the road, and an extra hour in the terminal in DUB...again, personal opinion, but I'm happy to clear immigration in the US on arrival.
PVD was circa 20-25 minutes, SFO last year was about the same, MCO maybe 30 minutes...my only bad experience was 90 minutes in EWR. And while you're in the queue for immigration, you'd only be waiting for baggage anyway...also, the new 'ATMs' do speed things up.
So for me, it will be BFS-MCO next year, or maybe BFS-LGW-MCO, or BHD-MAN-MCO.
PVD was circa 20-25 minutes, SFO last year was about the same, MCO maybe 30 minutes...my only bad experience was 90 minutes in EWR. And while you're in the queue for immigration, you'd only be waiting for baggage anyway...also, the new 'ATMs' do speed things up.
So for me, it will be BFS-MCO next year, or maybe BFS-LGW-MCO, or BHD-MAN-MCO.
Pre clearance is a total non-issue for the reasons indicated above. 30 mins at JFK last August.
Typing this at BFS waiting for my flight to VNO.
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So it seems that for a route to New York area to have the best chance of success it needs to be to one of the major airports there and have the ability to connect. Narrows the choice a bit for Bfs management.
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I passed through Bfs on Monday about 2.00pm. Security not that busy and I was using priority lane. 4/5 pax in front of me.
One pax had about 20 bottles of liquid not in bags. To be fair, the security agent was re-packing all this into a number of plastic bags. That I didn't agree with. We have had these rules now for 10+ years, I think people who do this should be sent back to pack liquids properly. End result was that I had to wait maybe 15 minutes whilst all this confusion was going on. But I had paid for a fast service. To make matters worse, the guy who was causing the problem was complaining it was taking too long and he could miss his flight.
I make over 50 flights a year and my goal is to try and make sure the security alarm does not go off. So I take everything off that could cause a problem. So when I passed through the arch, I had only my wedding ring on that was metal. But it went off. So I had to take shoes off and go through the scanner. Last time I did this, nothing showed. This time, something in my left trouser pocket as I checked the screen. After the full body search I had to bring out what was in my pocket, 2 £20 notes. He took them off me and opened them up to check inside. I made a comment that there was something wrong with security when it had got to the point on checking inside bank notes. Apparently they make all sorts of major discoveries inside bank notes, I was told.
Then my liquids came through, had to be tested for traces of explosive.
Then my jacket came through, my phone was in the inside pocket. I was asked what was in the pocket, they had to see the phone. Then it was a question that there was something else, that was my credit card wallet, they had to see it.
By this stage I could really have lost my temper.
I did observe that the alarm was sounding for a very large number of people, I have seen that before. I don't know what was going on on Monday, everyone seemed to be getting a hard time at security, but it was not a good experience.
I returned through Lgw last night, I took the same steps and walked right through security, no questions asked. Both airports should have the same levels, why do they not?
One pax had about 20 bottles of liquid not in bags. To be fair, the security agent was re-packing all this into a number of plastic bags. That I didn't agree with. We have had these rules now for 10+ years, I think people who do this should be sent back to pack liquids properly. End result was that I had to wait maybe 15 minutes whilst all this confusion was going on. But I had paid for a fast service. To make matters worse, the guy who was causing the problem was complaining it was taking too long and he could miss his flight.
I make over 50 flights a year and my goal is to try and make sure the security alarm does not go off. So I take everything off that could cause a problem. So when I passed through the arch, I had only my wedding ring on that was metal. But it went off. So I had to take shoes off and go through the scanner. Last time I did this, nothing showed. This time, something in my left trouser pocket as I checked the screen. After the full body search I had to bring out what was in my pocket, 2 £20 notes. He took them off me and opened them up to check inside. I made a comment that there was something wrong with security when it had got to the point on checking inside bank notes. Apparently they make all sorts of major discoveries inside bank notes, I was told.
Then my liquids came through, had to be tested for traces of explosive.
Then my jacket came through, my phone was in the inside pocket. I was asked what was in the pocket, they had to see the phone. Then it was a question that there was something else, that was my credit card wallet, they had to see it.
By this stage I could really have lost my temper.
I did observe that the alarm was sounding for a very large number of people, I have seen that before. I don't know what was going on on Monday, everyone seemed to be getting a hard time at security, but it was not a good experience.
I returned through Lgw last night, I took the same steps and walked right through security, no questions asked. Both airports should have the same levels, why do they not?
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I passed through Bfs on Monday about 2.00pm. Security not that busy and I was using priority lane. 4/5 pax in front of me.
One pax had about 20 bottles of liquid not in bags. To be fair, the security agent was re-packing all this into a number of plastic bags. That I didn't agree with. We have had these rules now for 10+ years, I think people who do this should be sent back to pack liquids properly. End result was that I had to wait maybe 15 minutes whilst all this confusion was going on. But I had paid for a fast service. To make matters worse, the guy who was causing the problem was complaining it was taking too long and he could miss his flight.
I make over 50 flights a year and my goal is to try and make sure the security alarm does not go off. So I take everything off that could cause a problem. So when I passed through the arch, I had only my wedding ring on that was metal. But it went off. So I had to take shoes off and go through the scanner. Last time I did this, nothing showed. This time, something in my left trouser pocket as I checked the screen. After the full body search I had to bring out what was in my pocket, 2 £20 notes. He took them off me and opened them up to check inside. I made a comment that there was something wrong with security when it had got to the point on checking inside bank notes. Apparently they make all sorts of major discoveries inside bank notes, I was told.
Then my liquids came through, had to be tested for traces of explosive.
Then my jacket came through, my phone was in the inside pocket. I was asked what was in the pocket, they had to see the phone. Then it was a question that there was something else, that was my credit card wallet, they had to see it.
By this stage I could really have lost my temper.
I did observe that the alarm was sounding for a very large number of people, I have seen that before. I don't know what was going on on Monday, everyone seemed to be getting a hard time at security, but it was not a good experience.
I returned through Lgw last night, I took the same steps and walked right through security, no questions asked. Both airports should have the same levels, why do they not?
One pax had about 20 bottles of liquid not in bags. To be fair, the security agent was re-packing all this into a number of plastic bags. That I didn't agree with. We have had these rules now for 10+ years, I think people who do this should be sent back to pack liquids properly. End result was that I had to wait maybe 15 minutes whilst all this confusion was going on. But I had paid for a fast service. To make matters worse, the guy who was causing the problem was complaining it was taking too long and he could miss his flight.
I make over 50 flights a year and my goal is to try and make sure the security alarm does not go off. So I take everything off that could cause a problem. So when I passed through the arch, I had only my wedding ring on that was metal. But it went off. So I had to take shoes off and go through the scanner. Last time I did this, nothing showed. This time, something in my left trouser pocket as I checked the screen. After the full body search I had to bring out what was in my pocket, 2 £20 notes. He took them off me and opened them up to check inside. I made a comment that there was something wrong with security when it had got to the point on checking inside bank notes. Apparently they make all sorts of major discoveries inside bank notes, I was told.
Then my liquids came through, had to be tested for traces of explosive.
Then my jacket came through, my phone was in the inside pocket. I was asked what was in the pocket, they had to see the phone. Then it was a question that there was something else, that was my credit card wallet, they had to see it.
By this stage I could really have lost my temper.
I did observe that the alarm was sounding for a very large number of people, I have seen that before. I don't know what was going on on Monday, everyone seemed to be getting a hard time at security, but it was not a good experience.
I returned through Lgw last night, I took the same steps and walked right through security, no questions asked. Both airports should have the same levels, why do they not?