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Old 19th Jan 2018, 15:10
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Wizz Air S18

Just checking flights to Vilnius for Summer 2018 and see that flights have moved from Monday & Friday evenings to Wednesday & Sunday mornings

Arrives 07:05, Departs 07:40.

Any idea what aircraft the will use for Summer 2018? A320 or A321?
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Old 19th Jan 2018, 16:39
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I had a look at several dates, and the seat maps are all showing the A320. The A321 was used from June-September last year, but passenger numbers only exceeded A320 capacity in June (by 103 pax) and September (by 9 pax), meaning it makes sense for Wizz to revert back to the A320. The route is doing very well however, and these new flight times will hopefully be more popular with passengers.

Monthly load factors;

January (86%), Feb (89%), March (90%), April (92%), May (90%), June (81%*), July (78%*), August (78%*), September (79%*), October (91%), November (90%).

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Old 19th Jan 2018, 18:15
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Thanks for the information A320.b744.
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Old 19th Jan 2018, 18:59
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Load factors consistently at 90% or under seem as bit low by LOCO standards?
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Old 19th Jan 2018, 19:36
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Wizz Air's average load factor Jan-Nov was 91.5%.

2017 was the first year that the A321 was used during the summer, giving an average load factor Jan-Nov of 84.7%. It is worth noting that the 2016 load factor was just 79.8%, when the route was solely operated by the A320.

Wizz have seen that the A321 is currently too large for BFS-VNO, as only 112 of the extra 3,500 seats available were filled.

This year, Wizz are returning to the A320 throughout the year, and if passenger numbers were to be the same as in 2017, the route would have an above average load factor of 92.7%.
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Old 20th Jan 2018, 10:25
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In all seriousness, why would this be a priority? I know it needs a renovation but as a functional area, it does what it says on the tin. Lets you into the building, which gets better from that point as far as the departures area before taking a downturn again at the departures gates. I think Mr Keddie knows fine well which areas make him some money. No coincidence his reign has seen improvements in car parking and retail provision, given those are his big revenue generators...
Half of Europe has lovely new modern terminals; something that attracts additional growth to those airports. Whereas the Belfast terminal is from goodness knows when. I’ve traversed the same pier 100s of times to my departure gate since I’ve was 4 years old. I don’t even, know if the carpet has changed!

Obviously money doesn’t grow on trees, but they need to seriously consider a new terminal, with efforts that go far beyond drawing plans.
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Old 20th Jan 2018, 10:46
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New terminal is a fine dream but an expensive one. Half those swanky new ones are likely state or part state funded. I would also wager very few have the challenging circumstances we have in terms of a relatively small finite marketplace split between 3 competing services, operating without a governmental aviation strategy in place to maximise potential in competition with a much bigger operation within easy reach in a different country.

Yes, same old chatter but c'est la vie
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Old 20th Jan 2018, 10:47
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I will give you the carpet in 22 though... drives me nuts 😉
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Old 20th Jan 2018, 23:28
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I always support Belfast International and I don't fly to City airport. That's ny choice. However, the entrance to the terminal is a frst impression for many and it Is dire. Two glass filled with wood, leaking roof and cold dark and damp. It's a bleak first impression of an otherwise nice airport. Heading to 6 million pax, must do better.
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Old 21st Jan 2018, 20:36
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Next easyjet announcement tomorrow or Tuesday?
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Old 22nd Jan 2018, 18:46
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Seems EasyJet has put extra Gatwick flights on sale for July?

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Old 22nd Jan 2018, 21:47
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I reckon terminal development will only come once we have more legacy carriers at BFS, something that seems stubbornly difficult to achieve. Legacy carriers will pay the higher landing fees that justify the lounge facilities and airbridges they want for their customers. If we had Air France or Lufthansa offering short-haul, and perhaps a US carrier (again), added to the VS service to MCO, maybe we'd be on the way. The long-haul pier is crying out for rebuilding...the rest of the airport is a bit messy, but generally in decent order. If we had those airlines, then a long-haul rebuild could be part of a bigger phased effort.
However, while EZY and FR dominate traffic, it's hard to see much in the way of development coming (sadly).
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Old 22nd Jan 2018, 23:14
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Originally Posted by NWSRG
I reckon terminal development will only come once we have more legacy carriers at BFS, something that seems stubbornly difficult to achieve. Legacy carriers will pay the higher landing fees that justify the lounge facilities and airbridges they want for their customers. If we had Air France or Lufthansa offering short-haul, and perhaps a US carrier (again), added to the VS service to MCO, maybe we'd be on the way. The long-haul pier is crying out for rebuilding...the rest of the airport is a bit messy, but generally in decent order. If we had those airlines, then a long-haul rebuild could be part of a bigger phased effort.
However, while EZY and FR dominate traffic, it's hard to see much in the way of development coming (sadly).
I would say it's more likely to be the other way around. When full-service carriers are choosing between BFS & BHD, they see that BHD has a) better transport links, b) a better (though a little small) terminal, c) better business facilities. The only things BFS currently has going for it is its runway length, and the ability to expand the terminal in the long term. BFS management need to take the initiative and improve the terminal immediately in order to attract full-service airlines. Given these airlines have a choice of two airports when coming to Belfast, they're not going to choose BFS in the hope that the terminal will be improved in the long run, they'll choose BHD because it is currently fit for use, just like British Airways, KLM, Brussels Airlines and Icelandair have already done.

It's a rather sad fact that out of the island's five main airports (DUB, BFS, BHD, ORK, SNN), four of them are connected to the Oneworld and SkyTeam networks, and three are connected to the Star Alliance network, yet BFS doesn't have any alliance connections. It is extremely disappointing that the airport cannot attract any full-service carriers, except for Virgin Atlantic on a seasonal point-to-point basis.

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Old 23rd Jan 2018, 15:53
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I see on the Ryanair thread there is a new route from Belfast International to Manchester starting March 25th, one daily flight.
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Old 23rd Jan 2018, 18:36
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BHD is not convenient for a lot of people though.
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Old 23rd Jan 2018, 18:37
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You mean it's not convenient for you?
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Old 23rd Jan 2018, 18:40
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Well, if you look at the stats it's obvious that BFS is convenient for quite a bit more people, having 2.3x the passengers flowing through it.
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Owen, FR don't fly from BHD.
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Old 23rd Jan 2018, 18:41
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Originally Posted by DC9_10
Owen, FR don't fly from BHD.
What's that supposed to imply?
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Old 23rd Jan 2018, 18:44
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What it says on the tin lad.
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