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Old 20th Aug 2018, 16:29
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True Blue,
If anybody was to MAD, it would need to be Ryanair or Iberia Express. But both of those are big on the aforementioned route. Dublin has as many as 6 flights a day, do not an easy proposition to get over the line...

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Old 21st Aug 2018, 18:35
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This would have best been placed on the easyJet thread Gazmo. **** me lad your like the grim reaper. The airport management and operational staff have no control over a particular airline operator working its staff to the max in the height of the summer season. I worked for giroJet for a long time, was a union rep and regularly would go fatigued when they took the piss with rosters. Safety is the number one priority after all but **** the crew who are operating.
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 11:56
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I think GAZMO's point was that the airport keeps appearing in negative news stories - irrespective of whether they are responsible or not.

This one definitely looks like the airports responsibility

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45270594
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 12:36
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Originally Posted by DC9_10 View Post
Safety is the number one priority after all
I know it has become a trope but I wish people would stop saying that. The priority for a company is to fulfill its business objectives, generally aligned with making money. Otherwise it will cease to function.

They are constrained in pursuing that by H&S legislation. A balance is therefore sought between (1) achieving the business objectives and (2) accepting the risk i.e. the lack of total safety. Here's the formal definition:

A safe system of work is a procedure to eliminate the risk involved in an operation. If elimination is not possible, then, at least, to reduce the risk to an acceptable level.
If safety was truly the priority then no work would occur if the risk couldn't be completely eliminated.
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 13:38
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Believe airport has been quietly compensating everyone affected by the flood. Can you imagine any other company doing that. An absolute Act of God, record daily rainfall and a few cars were damaged. But then the BBC are not the biggest fans of BFS.
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 15:46
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Originally Posted by BFS watcher View Post
Believe airport has been quietly compensating everyone affected by the flood. Can you imagine any other company doing that. An absolute Act of God, record daily rainfall and a few cars were damaged. But then the BBC are not the biggest fans of BFS.
But if your car park does not drain then it's not an act of God.
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 15:47
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Is the compensation for the flood, or for not telling them?
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 16:20
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Originally Posted by Startledgrapefruit View Post
But if your car park does not drain then it's not an act of God.
+1. If the article is true and they choose not to tell the customers, that is poor form. If true, this summer is going from bad to worse on the operational side of the house.

Edit: This seems to be escalating in the press and is now in danger of becoming a total PR disaster. The airports refusal to speak isnít helping matters.

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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 20:48
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Originally Posted by EGAC is Better View Post


+1. If the article is true and they choose not to tell the customers, that is poor form. If true, this summer is going from bad to worse on the operational side of the house.

Edit: This seems to be escalating in the press and is now in danger of becoming a total PR disaster. The airports refusal to speak isnít helping matters.
The article (along with the two Special Assistance stories of recent times) are all utter tosh.

Car Park one is a complete fabrication with hypothetical discussion on top of chinese whispers. Why would a private company have to broadcast any details about their dealings behind the scenes with ALL affected clients to a public audience.

The man with the spanners was correctly handled by the security team, as was the little boy with Autism. The reporting here is utter tripe, playing to the baying mob.
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 20:49
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Perhaps like every other reasonable business they simply don’t wish to be trailed around by the nose by the grossly over-populated BBC and the biggest country in the show!? Facts will come to light some way or other.
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 21:28
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Originally Posted by SecondDog View Post
The article (along with the two Special Assistance stories of recent times) are all utter tosh.

Car Park one is a complete fabrication with hypothetical discussion on top of chinese whispers. Why would a private company have to broadcast any details about their dealings behind the scenes with ALL affected clients to a public audience.

The man with the spanners was correctly handled by the security team, as was the little boy with Autism. The reporting here is utter tripe, playing to the baying mob.

Ever since the issue with security at the start of the summer its just been dig after dig..

Anyone with common sense should know that with security, you can't take a tool kit, its on the prohibited items list.. if there was more time it could have been planned or travelled in the hold, but you can't fault security for doing their job... as for the boy with autism, security would not have seperated him from the parent... i believe the grandmother was with him? Every one is out to try and get a bit of compensation / attention now..

As for the car parking... as long as they were contacting all affected customers then I don't see the issue, its been nearly 4 weeks since the worst rain in years... why is this only coming out now? I am sure that all affected didn't have nearly a 3 week holiday my guess is someone didn't get as much compensation as they wanted.. they are lucky they are getting anything, regardless if the drains are in place or not, it still probably falls under an act of God.. plus the disclaimer that the operator isn't responsible for any damage / theft while parked..
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 08:11
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Well done Belfast International. And I am really pleased you have come out with the facts and put the record straight.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/o...-37242742.html
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 11:58
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A manager that takes responsibility and talks to the press on his own terms and refutes the absurd rumours that are out there.

Harbour management take note, you see you can talk to the press to challenge bullsh*t when necessary. Hiding away breeds more rumours and inaccurate speculation.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 14:09
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Went through BFS Saturday 11th for mid afternoon flight. Took on board all bad publicity on here and on the media so went with an open mind.
Park and fly had to park quite far from bus, maybe a few more pointers to locate rows, probably not unique to BFS, regular shuttle buses.
Flight check-in bright and airy building went smoothly. Round to security, a lot of departures due in the afternoon, no que straight through.
Main terminal absolutely fine, toilets etc modern like any other airport, a little walk along international pier to departures.
Flight called for boarding, the stairs were drab and going down I am sure there will have been a few near misses.
Summing up overall good experience no buckets under dripping roofs (well it wasn't raining). I suppose the park and fly bus drop off could be more centrally located for parking, more row number markers.. no complaints within the terminal apart from the stairs at the gate. There are of course stairs at other airports I have used, so not a BFS issue although a few more airbridges would be welcome.
Overall impression did what it said on the packet, nothing outstanding, would dissappear as a memory into any other airport I have flown through if it was my only experience of BFS.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 16:21
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See the rains on. Better get the drain rods out !!!
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 08:01
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BFS looks a little tired and could do with some fresh paint and a clean up outside. It performs well compared to some other airports, e.g. Bristol where, despite a brand new building in the last 20 years and numerous extensions, security is problematic, longer walks than BFS are the norm and coaching to remote stands feels like you have left Somerset and gone to Devon. I used to work as a despatcher at BFS in the 80s and can't believe how the passenger numbers have increased since then. On the downside no Vanguards, whistling wheelbarrows, Daks and other assorted museum pieces on the cargo ramp now.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 07:22
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CAA stats for July 5,949825 pax on 12 month rolling. Up 11% compared to same time last year. Maybe will hit the six million next month

Some big increases on Domestic front
EDI +37%
MAN +54%
BHX + 49
GLA + 31
NCL +14%


IOM 2397 passengers in the month (85% LF)

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Old 29th Aug 2018, 07:33
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Especially great to see IOM doing so well. Traditionally Belfast has long been one of the largest markets from IOM, sadly has declined in recent years (like many others), but hopefully that trend will reverse. Also nice little short sector that fits in around current flying programme.

Wonder in the current client would easyJet add an extra domestic point at daily frequency (or similar to IOM) like Leeds or Aberdeen and as summer routes either Newquay or at a stretch Bournemouth. I suspect that Southampton as a daily leisure market could be sustained, and Flybe have this market well developed from both Belfast and Dublin. Thoughts?
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 08:45
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I always thought that if EZY were to look at another domestic route from BFS it would be LBA or EMA

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Old 29th Aug 2018, 20:16
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New Owners - VINCI Airports

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