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Old 18th May 2018, 09:57
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B738 G-NPTA doing more back-and-forth training today and then rumoured to be operating the mail service out of Belfast this evening; its first revenue flight since becoming a freighter.

OK it's not that exciting but nice to have something new at Belfast.
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Old 18th May 2018, 19:42
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Originally Posted by El Bunto View Post
B738 G-NPTA doing more back-and-forth training today and then rumoured to be operating the mail service out of Belfast this evening; its first revenue flight since becoming a freighter.

OK it's not that exciting but nice to have something new at Belfast.
careful Bunto, that kind of positivity doesn't go down well on the NI airport threads 😉
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Old 18th May 2018, 23:28
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Everybody loves a ar5eh0le
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Old 21st May 2018, 17:13
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Social media reports suggest there was another morning of security delays today.

I’ll take it with a pinch of salt unless someone can confirm it happened again? The inconsistency of the occurrences is a bit worrying.
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Old 21st May 2018, 20:33
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Social media reports suggest there was another morning of security delays today.
There was one picture on Twitter showing the area between the escalators and the doors into security absolutely bunged. And it's not even the holidays yet!

Now it could have been a snapshot, and it may have been almost 400 people heading for Florida, but even so, it doesn't come across well. The airport seems to have been doing mostly good things recently, but this could set it back quite a bit, if it gets such a reputation.
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Old 21st May 2018, 22:20
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There was one picture on Twitter showing the area between the escalators and the doors into security absolutely bunged. And it's not even the holidays yet!

Now it could have been a snapshot, and it may have been almost 400 people heading for Florida, but even so, it doesn't come across well. The airport seems to have been doing mostly good things recently, but this could set it back quite a bit, if it gets such a reputation.
eh?, airport running a full schedule at the minute so the summer is here! Security 50 or so bods down i believe, offering overtime to stay on apparently, but its only a sticky plaster. I'd love to hear an airport that runs smoothly, it was only last month that the dirty DUB ran out of fuel...........
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Old 21st May 2018, 22:36
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Old 21st May 2018, 22:53
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🤦 Exactly what I didn’t wish to hear
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Old 21st May 2018, 23:13
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I refer back to my post 1112. While I have a degree of sympathy for the airport, it is tempered by the knowledge that they themselves have chosen to go down this route. In their attempt to cut corners and save cash while outsourcing they have chosen the most competitive tender, i.e. the cheapest. This is the end result. An employer that doesn't look after its staff cannot expect any form of staff loyalty or staff that will go the extra mile. You will simply get a high turnover of people that don't give a hoot what flights passengers miss or not, can you blame the security staff on the ground? Not really. The fault goes way further up the ladder, I would suggest as far as the chief bean counters office. You reap what you sow.

A summer of bad publicity will not bode well for the airport or maybe they subscribe to the Ryanair policy - there is no such thing as bad publicity!

UK airports with worst departing flight delays revealed - BBC News

Oh dear, looks like City is better performance but that may well be because there are decreasing numbers of people using it!
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Old 22nd May 2018, 08:18
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The full summer schedule has still to hit BFS. Wait until Jet2 have 4 aircraft departing each morning and afternoon, EZY bring in their new aircraft, BH air up to 3 flights per week, Ernest Air, Luxair !!!!!

Maybe I should camp overnight in departures to avoid the rush
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Old 22nd May 2018, 12:24
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I often wonder at what point does the cost of out-sourcing become greater than doing it yourself, in terms of poor service and all the other issues that arise?
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Old 22nd May 2018, 14:08
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It's like the NHS, a lot of the cost would go to agency workers. If you brought all these people in house, you'd probably get better results, but then you have to pay them year round (or tinker with Fixed term contracts), which is why agency staff can be returned when no longer needed.
I woul.d speculate you'd need half and half. Half to stay permanently, and half for the summer peak. as to the exact figure that would be...thats anyones guess
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Old 22nd May 2018, 15:22
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The infrastructure has not grown with the large increase in passengers. The building is not big enough and the search area only has 6 lanes hence the problems when its busy. It may be mentioned that more cabin baggage is going through central search than in previous years and less hold baggage being checked in. How things change
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Old 22nd May 2018, 18:39
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Fast Track Security

For anyone interested, below is direct from the airport regarding the up front or on the day purchase on Fast Track security at the moment.

“we can advise that the option to purchase Priority Security at the airport has been withdrawn and online sales have been restricted at peak times in an effort to manage the expectation of our regular Priority Security customers.”
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Old 22nd May 2018, 18:45
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Got this promotional email from BFS this morning

Re: ☀️11 things to do on a sunny day in Northern Ireland ☀️

Wonder what number 12 would be?? Enjoying the sunny security check??
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Old 22nd May 2018, 22:25
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Got this promotional email from BFS this morning

Re: ☀️11 things to do on a sunny day in Northern Ireland ☀️

Wonder what number 12 would be?? Enjoying the sunny security check??
u need help friend
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Old 23rd May 2018, 07:17
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Originally Posted by True Blue View Post
I often wonder at what point does the cost of out-sourcing become greater than doing it yourself, in terms of poor service and all the other issues that arise?
Outsourcing isn't always about reducing cost, though that often follows. Its great advantage is that it moves 'human assets' from the capital expenditure of the balance sheet to operational expenditure. In other words from fixed costs to variable costs. Which means the risk also shifts, to the contractor.

Which is why it's really hard to revert outsourcing, I've been involved in that process for more than a decade in IT and even if we can show that costs will be lower by bringing back in-house there's still the problem of assuming risk of employing all those people again.
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Old 23rd May 2018, 15:23
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El Bunto - valid points. The irony is that if a company looks after its staff with decent Terms and Conditions and doesn't continually try and shaft them in order for the higher management echelons to get their performance bonus, staff will actually stay! If they are employed with a company that actually looks on them as assets that can be beneficial to the business rather than a business expense that needs to be reduced then loyalty will follow.

How many senior management levels within companies are on the same Terms and Conditions as the Joe Bloggs workers? Not many I would bet, but yet these same management types seem to think it is perfectly acceptable to screw those below in order for those on the higher levels to continue with the perks they believe they deserve. There has been a race to the bottom in past years for ordinary workers, I'm not sure if we have reached the lowest point yet but certainly the gap between those that actually do the work against those that declare themselves directors etc is patently unfair.

Sorry for the rant and thread drift but I think its unfair just to blame the security guys and gals at Aldergrove for the screw ups over the last few weeks. The blame goes further up the tree in my opinion. I have no doubt the proper summer schedule will bring further issues as has already been noted but if I was working a minimum wage job with aggro from both the public and also my bosses would I give a sh*t either? Probably not!
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Old 23rd May 2018, 16:54
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And the delays continue, but not security this time

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...-36938118.html
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Old 23rd May 2018, 22:03
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Thats a crewing issue not a delay
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