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Old 24th Apr 2018, 16:04
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Could this help open new routes to airports in France and Portugal?
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Old 24th Apr 2018, 17:37
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Jet 2

BFS to BOJ confirmed on Wednesdays starting 29/5/19, departs 14.45. Finishing 25/9/19

They still have a spare AM and PM slots on Wednesday so maybe some more to come
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Old 24th Apr 2018, 19:30
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Would no doubt help to boost traffic to other airports in the group
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Old 24th Apr 2018, 20:47
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Originally Posted by GAZMO View Post
BFS to BOJ confirmed on Wednesdays starting 29/5/19, departs 14.45. Finishing 25/9/19

They still have a spare AM and PM slots on Wednesday so maybe some more to come
Looks to be on the B737-300 aircraft so that leaves one of the B737-800 aircraft still not doing anything all day on a Wednesday. Must be another route or two to be announced?
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 11:15
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Ezy

kefalonia being reportedly as destination on ni travel website although not yet on EZY website

https://nitravelnews.com/news/easyje...s-now-on-sale/
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 12:14
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So when do you all think FR will throw the toys out of the pram and say rates are too high ?
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 17:30
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Originally Posted by GAZMO View Post
kefalonia being reportedly as destination on ni travel website although not yet on EZY website

https://nitravelnews.com/news/easyje...s-now-on-sale/
Maybe meant 'Keflavik'?
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 18:28
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Thats more likely
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 11:18
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I wonder why VS has showed no interest in a NY route from BFS or even Canada they have good brand awareness in NI
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 14:15
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Originally Posted by BHD2BFS View Post
I wonder why VS has showed no interest in a NY route from BFS or even Canada they have good brand awareness in NI
i would give them a chance first, this is the first time they have run a full season so give them time
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 14:49
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Originally Posted by BHD2BFS View Post
I wonder why VS has showed no interest in a NY route from BFS or even Canada they have good brand awareness in NI
I'd love to see it, but think it's unlikely. Our MCO service is part of the LGW/MAN/GLA collection of holiday routes. In which case, a Vegas offering might be possible, But all of Virgin's 'business' type routes (such as YYZ or JFK) are operated by the LHR-based operation. They haven't offered destinations such as those from anywhere other than Heathrow.

If you look at it from a Belfast perspective, then we could maybe base a 787 here, and offer a couple of Toronto rotations and maybe three New York rotations each week. Throw in an Orlando at the weekend, and we may well be able to justify the aircraft. But from the VS perspective, they operate a 'business' type service from LHR, and the holiday routes from LGW/MAN/GLA/BFS.
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 14:49
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Dublin is quite expensive this year! I wonder will more people connect from Heathrow?

I was just looking at Chicago from BHD and the prices are £200 cheaper.
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 20:36
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Originally Posted by NWSRG View Post
But from the VS perspective, they operate a 'business' type service from LHR, and the holiday routes from LGW/MAN/GLA/BFS.
MAN has a hybrid operation: "hoilday routes" to MCO (10 weekly or thereabouts) with BGI & LAS both 2 weekly. "Business routes" to JFK and ATL daily (both appear to be 4 weekly in winter) with summer seasonal on MAN-SFO 3 weekly and MAN-BOS 2 weekly (though the primary focus for SFO and BOS may be holiday traffic, the hope is that hi-tech links between SFO and MAN based compnanies can get it to also become year-round as they are attempting to garner corporate traffic).
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 22:42
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Originally Posted by Speedhawk View Post
I think there are a couple of reasons why Virgin have showed no interest in BFS to JFK/BOS/YYZ flights, and are unlikely to do so anytime soon;

United were unable to make BFS-EWR work, despite having daily B752 flights providing connections to over 100 destinations. Virgin would have to use the much larger B789/A333, and Delta's JFK hub provides a lot fewer connections than United at EWR.

Additional services from BFS would require Virgin to order additional aircraft or axe existing routes, as there's simply no capacity available for the flights.

Demand on transatlantic routes from BFS isn't yet high enough to sustain more than one airline. Norwegian is (albeit seasonally) still operating from BFS, meaning any potential Virgin service would need to rely heavily on transfer passengers, as a large number of point-to-point and budget travellers would choose to fly Norwegian.

I don't think Virgin will add flights to JFK/BOS/YYZ from BFS anytime soon, but if their MCO service continues to be a success then I could see the frequency being increased, and there is always a remote possibility of flights to LAS/BGI.
United was too expensive, and it did work. I think one year they carried 90,000 passengers, then it decreased thereafter for whatever reason. I think it would be hard to compete with Dublin's 7 daily flights to NYC.
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 23:49
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Originally Posted by owenc View Post
United was too expensive, and it did work. I think one year they carried 90,000 passengers, then it decreased thereafter for whatever reason. I think it would be hard to compete with Dublin's 7 daily flights to NYC.
Expensive and the cost of operating the flight with crew on long serving contracts, hotel, transport... all adds up. Numbers started to decrease 2/3 years before they left when flights reduced in winter followed by suspension for 12 weeks.
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Old 29th Apr 2018, 01:17
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So you think the route couldíve worked if they continue d to have it year round?
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Old 29th Apr 2018, 07:43
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Are we back to the United Newark conversation?

It made money, that was stated uncategorically in public evidence before a committee.

They decided the airframes could make more money on other routes. That's how it works when you rely on a non-local airline that has no vested interest in the community.
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Old 29th Apr 2018, 10:51
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How many commerical private owned airline companies provide services purely as a vested interest for the community?
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Old 29th Apr 2018, 11:20
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They dumped us and others for transcon.
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Old 29th Apr 2018, 11:45
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Oh the crocodile tears from people in this thread complaining that CO Ďdumped usí, when these same people flew long haul from Dublin.

The route was losing money in 2011 - so itís unfair to say that United didnít try and maintain the connectivity.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/tra...-28655745.html

With Norwegian unsurprisingly failing to make it work, I canít see anyone else taking up the route until perhaps EI get the 321LR, and a subsidy. A big subsidy. Oh and a cherry on top of that subsidy. Their Jet blue connectivity in JFK could help the viability.
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