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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 21:49
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Originally Posted by airbourne View Post
Bus
Travelodge
Overnight travel

Yet....flies business class?

More like bulls class!

And all this before your 21st birthday!
Although I totally agree with your comments especially the bull class which I found quite humorous to say the least but....

I was fortunate from 20 years of age to have traveled business class with British Airways, South African Airlines and Trans World Airlines as well as staying in the Holiday Inn, Metropole, Novotel, Sheraton branded hotels so it's not always the age thing although I was very fortunate enough at 20yo to have had such a great job that allowed me to have such a lifestyle albeit being paid for by my employer and not by myself at such a young age.

But I totally agree I take everything he says with a large pinch of salt.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 23:07
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Originally Posted by BFS BHD View Post
I seen online that Premier Inn are going to build a new 81 bed hotel near the Belfast International Airport. Not sure where it is going.

Moorfield Contracts who are building the new serivce station are meant to be the ones building the hotel.
Theres the old kilead air lodge rooms across the runway, might be something to do with it?
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 23:29
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 00:35
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Originally Posted by Refuellerman View Post
Theres the old kilead air lodge rooms across the runway, might be something to do with it?
Nah it will be off to the North of the terminal.
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 00:38
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On a separate note. Can we leave OwenC alone and talk more about the airport. I would like to know if anyone has heard about Norwegian doing anything with their daystoppers
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 03:43
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They have enough to worry about when they are putting out 40 people on a b737 to new york
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 07:58
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For September they are carrying 40 passengers on their service to New York. That ain't good!
It also ain't good that they have cancelled the Boston flight today.

So basically I will not be booking any flights with FR after their recent nonsense, even although I have booked LGW for October just a day before all these cancellations were announced!

And now Norwegian have arrived on my airlines to avoid at all cost list.
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 08:18
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Low cost, say no more
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 08:49
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40 people? What? I'm confused, you are assuming we all know what you are talking about.
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 09:10
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I think it is being suggested that 40 passengers as the load for a 737 operating across the Atlantic from Belfast isn't very good. I tend to agree.
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 09:40
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Its slowed a little of late but that is not unusual at this time of year, todays figures are double what you quote, what is amazing is Dublin is running at 165 each way most days.
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 09:44
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I find this fascinating. I know last year when I used the United app most flights where around 90-100 passengers, so why only 40 on a cheap service?
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 11:00
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You're comparing apples and oranges - United are a major carrier so will have a frequent flyer programme, connections to many other US destinations and fly to a major New York airport. Norwegian don't offer any of these - no loyalty programme, no connections and a destination airport a fair distance from New York city. Price isn't the only consideration.
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 11:32
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Anything Refullerman says I would take with a pinch of salt. GDS systems seem to state otherwise.
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 11:35
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What do the "GDS" systems say?
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 11:50
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Originally Posted by DC9_10 View Post
Anything Refullerman says I would take with a pinch of salt. GDS systems seem to state otherwise.
Sling your hook wiseguy, maybe more today as the pvd is canx, id love to know were your info comes from
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 12:18
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Probably because I work in travel and have access to real time booked loads. That's were I get my information from. Facts. Amadeus, Worldspan, Sabre etc.
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 12:38
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Originally Posted by EIFFS View Post
Its slowed a little of late but that is not unusual at this time of year, todays figures are double what you quote, what is amazing is Dublin is running at 165 each way most days.
Still 80 us poor if it was Jan or Feb then it might be acceptable. I wonder if forward bookings are behind the reason for reducing the freq in 2018 or at least until July-August.
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 12:48
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Bookings from what I can see have taken a dip after the school holidays but increase toward October. November a bit quiet but moving into December becoming busier with the holiday period well utilised. Jan and Feb quiet and starting to spike from March, however far more than 40 pax per sector each month.
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 14:59
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Cork figures also falling, but not as much.

40-80 is FAR more concerning than its being made out to be. Airlines like United (higher fares) can run at break even or minimal loss at around 45-55% loads, this figures is much higher, between 65%-80% depending on yield for LCC's.

A Stewart rotation has already been lost to Shannon for next summer, just pray marketing will maintain this route.
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